Deepstack hand

[david3103]

Just a quickie

I open the button at 1000/2000/300to 4500 with  from 80k
Richie Pearson is small blind. Richie had finished as chip leader the night before with just shy of 400k but had won three seats and was playing his 'spare'. He may be locked up with a view to just augmenting his stack, but I've been reasonably active when it's folded to me in late position and we know each other from occasional meetings locally.

He raises to 11500 playing 140k

Call or fold? Or indeed, some other option...

If you call, what do you do on a K high flop when he bets 11500

and again, if you call what do you do on very brick turn and river cards when he checks?

[rfgqqabc]

I call for sure. We'd have quite a dynamic though.

If it came K92 he bet, we call. then he checked a 6 turn. I'd check back and get some value on the river. I think we have the best hand a lot here, but we don't have a strong enough hand to go for a full double. 18.8k on the river.

[Tal]

What rkssnfhakbdjsggsj said.

I'm reliably informed there isn't much point 4betting and turning your hand into a bluff, but we should defend in position fairly often, especially with a hand that flops well.

Also, we might get aces to fold on the flop

[PutYouOnAK/AQ]

Definitely peeling pre.  Calling 2 streets on k high board as mentioned.  If he checks turn on k high board im probably going for 3 streets or bet turn check back river, but i prefer 3 streets.  reasoning is with kq ak aa he should be piling the turn for sure as lots of your showdown hands will be checking back and hel miss value.  Checking back turn and betting river is my least preferred line because the river rarely gets hero called as a bet ck bet line is rarely a bluff!

[pleno1]

id fold pre vs 90% of people in a live 300 tournament, its just so read dependent so we cant give you good advice imo

[Honeybadger]

I'd call pre vs 90% of people in a live 300 tournament

[Tal]

Definitely peeling pre.  Calling 2 streets on k high board as mentioned.  If he checks turn on k high board im probably going for 3 streets or bet turn check back river, but i prefer 3 streets.  reasoning is with kq ak aa he should be piling the turn for sure as lots of your showdown hands will be checking back and hel miss value.  Checking back turn and betting river is my least preferred line because the river rarely gets hero called as a bet ck bet line is rarely a bluff!

3 streets with just top pair in a 3bet pre pot sounds like it will often be thin. Understand the reasoning for betting the turn, especially if the board is wet.

That said, if it comes K66 and we call chappie's cbet and then bet the turn when checked to us and the turn is a badugi 2, we are going to get called by lots of pairs on the river.

[Rexas]

I'd call pre vs 90% of people in a live 300 tournament

I'd call pre vs everyone except stu in a live 300 tournament

[david3103]

id fold pre vs 90% of people in a live 300 tournament, its just so read dependent so we cant give you good advice imo

I'd call pre vs 90% of people in a live 300 tournament

 

[dwayne110]

In position with antes in play when it's perfect spot for him to make our stack size  feel awkward, seems weak to fold KJ suited here? Big raise size feels like a steal, thoughts on a 4 bet?? Given position, I'm call>raise>fold here, at ratio of probs 70% of times call/20 raise/10 fold

[tight4better]

Deffo a peel. Especially if you have a dynamic

[Honeybadger]

I'd call pre vs 90% of people in a live 300 tournament

I'd call pre vs everyone except stu in a live 300 tournament

Quite right too. You gotta recognise when you're outclassed

[welsh1980]

Fold pre plenty of other spots to come

[dwayne110]

You're seriously folding K-J suited on the button, un-opened pot??

[welsh1980]

You're seriously folding K-J suited on the button, un-opened pot??

No I would open and then fold to the 11.5k reraise