Famous people who have achieved success way beyond their talent level

[TightEnd]

Sadly I can't stand Robbie. I can't deny he is a tremendous showman, but I think his songs are pants.

Conversely I think the Chambers songs are very well written. Robbie as a showbusiness persona I dislike.

[The Camel]

Come to think about it, as applied to a sportsman the subject of this thread is a compliment.

Means they must have worked really hard and capitalised on every opportunity that presented itself.

Lleyton Hewitt for example.

Or Steve Davis.

[Jono3131]

whoever it is that said Eminem should be banned

[TightEnd]

Come to think about it, as applied to a sportsman the subject of this thread is a compliment.

Means they must have worked really hard and capitalised on every opportunity that presented itself.

Lleyton Hewitt for example.

Or Steve Davis.

Ian Poulter

Much better mano e mano in pressure spots than he is in 72 hole strokeplay

[DaveShoelace]

Come to think about it, as applied to a sportsman the subject of this thread is a compliment.

Means they must have worked really hard and capitalised on every opportunity that presented itself.

Lleyton Hewitt for example.

Or Steve Davis.

Steve Davis was unbeatable in his era, I think his talent and success were equally matched.

But yes, a huge complement nonetheless.

[tikay]

Come to think about it, as applied to a sportsman the subject of this thread is a compliment.

Means they must have worked really hard and capitalised on every opportunity that presented itself.

Lleyton Hewitt for example.

Or Steve Davis.

Sportsmen and women, yes, but anyone who over-achieves gets my vote. Surely we should admire them for making something out of nothing? We don't have to like them of course, that is a very different thing.*

* Unless it is Robbie. Gotta love Robbie.

[pleno1]

geordie shore crew

[mondatoo]

Baffling thread.

In what way did Steve Davis manage to have success way above his talent level ?

[Tal]

geordie shore crew

Who?

[The Baron]

Come to think about it, as applied to a sportsman the subject of this thread is a compliment.

Means they must have worked really hard and capitalised on every opportunity that presented itself.

Lleyton Hewitt for example.

Or Steve Davis.

Completely agree.

[Tal]

If Robbie makes this list, he could only do so if several hundred names above him were Mick - sorry, SIR Mick - Jagger. I'll take some dissuading on this.

[tikay]

Baffling thread.

In what way did Steve Davis manage to have success way above his talent level ?

The theory, Ray, is that he did not have "natural talent" and his success came from application and hard work, much as with, say, Nick Faldo. That is not a negative at all, just a fact, and an admirable one.

[Tal]

In snooker, I'd think a better example would be Ebdon or Dott, who won the world title during times when Higgins, Ronnie, Williams and Hendrie were playing well. They achieved more than their ability suggests they ought.

Not criticism, though.

[david3103]

If Robbie makes this list, he could only do so if several hundred names above him were Mick - sorry, SIR Mick - Jagger. I'll take some dissuading on this.

All those previous posts that built you up and now this...

My submission for the thread

Tal

[DaveShoelace]

I think we all have differing definitions of talent. Some are classing it as natural ability, others as just ability. Steve Davis may or may not have been a natural, but he had the ability to match his success. Someone like Beckham however, does not have anywhere near the ability to match his level of financial success he has achieved.