Famous people who have achieved success way beyond their talent level

[Tal]

On Sir Mick, he's a talent like any performer is a talent. But to have had the extent of success he's had, the reverence, the knighthood (where's Roger Daltrey's? Let's be honest, Jagger only got the KBE because Blair is a big Stones fan) is punching far above his weight.

Fair play to him

[DaveShoelace]

Good thread btw Camel, maybe tomorrows should be the opposite, ie, who has not had the level of success they probably should have?

[mondatoo]

I think we all have differing definitions of talent. Some are classing it as natural ability, others as just ability. Steve Davis may or may not have been a natural, but he had the ability to match his success. Someone like Beckham however, does not have anywhere near the ability to match his level of financial success he has achieved.

Yeah, this was my line of thought.

I don't see anyway Steve Davis can be itt, 99% of those who have got to the top of there Sport will have had to put a lot of hard work into getting there, wasn't there a well written piece on here not so long ago about "natural talent" being massively overrated as a relevant factor.

How do we quantify who has the least/most natural talent when looking at the very best ?

[DaveShoelace]

I think we all have differing definitions of talent. Some are classing it as natural ability, others as just ability. Steve Davis may or may not have been a natural, but he had the ability to match his success. Someone like Beckham however, does not have anywhere near the ability to match his level of financial success he has achieved.

Yeah, this was my line of thought.

I don't see anyway Steve Davis can be itt, 99% of those who have got to the top of there Sport will have had to put a lot of hard work into getting there, wasn't there a well written piece on here not so long ago about "natural talent" being massively overrated as a relevant factor.

How do we quantify who has the least/most natural talent when looking at the very best ?

Tru dat. What we assume is talent is likely the result of hard work. Thats why I am basing mine on their ability in general.

Oh and Shia Labeouf btw

[Supernova]

Simon Cowell

James Corden

Keith Lemon. The only guy that if someone could please shove a pipe up his arse preferably one wide enough to hold a street full of electric, gas & telecommunications cables inside, well I'd buy that person a pint. Maybe two.

[tikay]

I think we all have differing definitions of talent. Some are classing it as natural ability, others as just ability. Steve Davis may or may not have been a natural, but he had the ability to match his success. Someone like Beckham however, does not have anywhere near the ability to match his level of financial success he has achieved.

That is fair comment, but the marketing of David and Victoria Beckham PLC is nothing short of genius.

Not every footballer and wife would be able to take advantage of that, which, to be fair, is not necessarily a compliment. He lives his life in a Royalty like goldfish bowl, like HM the Queen, which must be truly horrific. Most coud not cope, but he can. To you and me, the vast financial rewards would not compensate for the loss of privacy, the ability to lead a normal life, but it works for him. Good luck to him, few could cope.

[Tal]

Simon Cowell

James Corden

Keith Lemon. The only guy that if someone could please shove a pipe up his arse preferably one wide enough to hold a street full of electric, gas & telecommunications cables inside, well I'd buy that person a pint. Maybe two.

Do you mean the character or Leigh Francis?

[DaveShoelace]

Think this guy is probably the winner

[tikay]

I think we all have differing definitions of talent. Some are classing it as natural ability, others as just ability. Steve Davis may or may not have been a natural, but he had the ability to match his success. Someone like Beckham however, does not have anywhere near the ability to match his level of financial success he has achieved.

Yeah, this was my line of thought.

I don't see anyway Steve Davis can be itt, 99% of those who have got to the top of there Sport will have had to put a lot of hard work into getting there, wasn't there a well written piece on here not so long ago about "natural talent" being massively overrated as a relevant factor.

How do we quantify who has the least/most natural talent when looking at the very best ?

Tru dat. What we assume is talent is likely the result of hard work. Thats why I am basing mine on their ability in general.

Oh and Shia Labeouf btw

There it is. Application v natural talent. Steve Davis v Jimmy White. (See tomorrow's thread....).

One won world titles galore, the other was forever the bridesmaid.

Which is the greater talent? Heads up, both at their peak, the betting would be close. One got the lot, the other not so much.

[tikay]

Think this guy is probably the winner

Thread killer.

[Tal]

Love that, Mr Shoelace.

Will happily throw in Tanja Lieden for good measure.



Lindsay Jacob-Ellis can go in tomorrow's thread.

[Supernova]

Simon Cowell

James Corden

Keith Lemon. The only guy that if someone could please shove a pipe up his arse preferably one wide enough to hold a street full of electric, gas & telecommunications cables inside, well I'd buy that person a pint. Maybe two.

Do you mean the character or Leigh Francis?

The character. It's just I find it so awful that the portrayal of a god's gift like character complete with dyed blonde hair, permatan & a bandage on his wanking hand so, well, ugh & unfunny.

[david3103]

Michael Mcintyre

[bobAlike]

Ricky Gervais

[tikay]

Michael Mcintyre

Perhaps the most loathed comedian of our time. Perhaps the most commercially successful, too. There is probably a link between the two.

A peculiar British trait.