Rob Yong and DTD..Your views

[gouty]

One thing seems to have been forgotten from the view of a recreational player (me).

Live cash poker is great fun. Online cash poker is as dull as dishwater.

Let's get the i-poker app sorted and I will happily play all the satties to club comps. This would seem a much better way of increasing revenue. Also turning the club next door into a hotel would make the club busier.

It seems Rob is trying to improve a product that many recs would not play anyway?

I for one hope Rob does not leave in six months as he is always at the forefront of UK poker for ideas.

[pleno1]

how is a satalite more fun than cash games for recreational players?

[Ironside]

most recs (not all) would rather play a comp than a cash game

very few recs will travel miles for a cash game but we will for a comp

notice how few cash tables fill up at the likes of a blonde Bash or an apat event or sky poker event

look how many recs will try and get a casino too put on a STT instead of a cash game

dont know why but recs prefer comps too cash

i dont know why but i am one of them

[KarmaDope]

One thing seems to have been forgotten from the view of a recreational player (me).

Live cash poker is great fun. Online cash poker is as dull as dishwater.

Let's get the i-poker app sorted and I will happily play all the satties to club comps. This would seem a much better way of increasing revenue. Also turning the club next door into a hotel would make the club busier.

It seems Rob is trying to improve a product that many recs would not play anyway?

I for one hope Rob does not leave in six months as he is always at the forefront of UK poker for ideas.

This.

I hate online cash. I used to sit at 1-2 tables on Stars and watch everyone fold. Every hand. Boring as shit. Then I'd do a search and they were either hidden or playing 812767812547284 tables.

I saw a post earlier where someone said that if you ban HUDs then off go the Russian nano-grinders. Good riddance IMO, they ruined the low-limit game. Them and 2p2. What a lot of low-limit pros dont realise is that recs want to play 3 streets. They don't want to stick their stack in preflop. All they want to do is see a flop, turn and river. 2p2 and HUDs turned this game into a preflop game and thats why recs would much rather play live or at home with their mates. You go to a low limit live cash game or a pub game in the UK and you get the same thing every hand - 4 or 5 limpers and everybody is happy.

Omaha is not the answer either, because although you see a lot more flops in PLO, recs dont understand that sometimes it is right to fold the nuts. Recs dont fold the nuts on the flop. They have a couple of hands where they stick their money in on the flop with the nuts and lose and they never come back.

I don't know what the answer is. I hope that these cash games will help, but change is needed much deeper down than this.

[david3103]

how is a satalite more fun than cash games for recreational players

Gouty didn't say it was.

But he did indicate that playing satellites is more appealing than online cash, a feeling I can understand since the reward for good play running in a satellite is a chance to play in a decent live comp at the best poker club in Europe.

Online cash with no banter and no idea who you are playing is pretty dull. The innovation of knowing who you are playing is a decent move forward, but on the odd occasion (twice) that I've ventured into these rooms so far the chat box has been conspicuously devoid of chat.
This is in contrast to the few Blonde League games I played, and the APAT games.

I'll keep going back, especially when the lower stakes games are running because I want to support Rob and keep him involved with DTD.

[gouty]

how is a satalite more fun than cash games for recreational players?

Any mtt is more fun for recs as there is a pot of gold at the end of it. If you are working 40 or 50 hours a week and have a wife and kids you might have a few nights a week for poker. Personally I would rather play the big 109 or 55 if I have a night on the sofa or a Sunday major.

This would change if dtd had an app as I would use that cash to qualify for club events. The only cash game I ever play is pissed up PLO which is strictly trying to spin 100 bucks to 1000 bucks after the quiz on a Thursday.

And whoever thinks there is very little advantage in HUD is off their rocker. I got 18th in the million a couple of years ago and had 5 A4 pages of notes. Then get moved tables and it's start all over again.

If I played cash or mtts for a living, or attempted to make a living from it would be more accurate, I would not hesitate to learn to use it. I think many of you think recs would play more cash if there was no HUD but that is incorrect. We like tourneys or spinning up cash hit n run style.

[gouty]

Going back to the thread title. I had one of my best nights of poker ever with him and he doesn't even know who I am I wouldn't think. Note I said best nights not profitable nights. In fact I dropped a couple of buy ins.

1/2 PLO with my two best poker mates and Rob,Marcel Luske, Karl Marenho...,and his mates. What a laugh watching great hold em players getting it sick and coming out on top. Played a great hand against Marco. Some guy punched someone on the other table and had to go.  Nice ice cold Fosters. It was a great night for me and all because Rob made the effort to play a game we could afford.

A total class act. Come on Rob. See what the app is like before you jump. All my mates only play on I-pads and one of them binked over 80k in the warm up on one right through whilst sat in the casino. I am sure it will make the world of difference.

I would play more online with you for sure.

[corkeye]

Agree with what others have said, I'd be more willing to give the cash tables online a go if the iPad/iPhone app was available.

[VBlue]

dont know why but recs prefer comps too cash

i dont know why but i am one of them

I would say it is due to the stop loss as each player knows the maximum he can lose and therefore feels more comfortable playing the way they want when they have bought-in.  Also, there is the carrot of a larger prize on offer.  Many will have started playing online through STTs and understand the format (a bit).

[CHIPPYMAN]

how is a satalite more fun than cash games for recreational players?

Cash is not fun , u can loose lots n lots n lots of £££££$$$$$€€€€€€

[TightEnd]

Agree with what others have said, I'd be more willing to give the cash tables online a go if the iPad/iPhone app was available.

Sign up anyway please sir! You'd only play online on a tablet?

[millidonk]

Agree with what others have said, I'd be more willing to give the cash tables online a go if the iPad/iPhone app was available.

Sign up anyway please sir! You'd only play online on a tablet?

I know a fair few people who only have tablets. Could be one of those?

[TightEnd]

Agree with what others have said, I'd be more willing to give the cash tables online a go if the iPad/iPhone app was available.

Sign up anyway please sir! You'd only play online on a tablet?

I know a fair few people who only have tablets. Could be one of those?

of course, just wondered. Wasn't criticising.

An i-poker app/i-pad client would be wonderful news!

[AlunB]

Agree with what others have said, I'd be more willing to give the cash tables online a go if the iPad/iPhone app was available.

Sign up anyway please sir! You'd only play online on a tablet?

I know a fair few people who only have tablets. Could be one of those?

of course, just wondered. Wasn't criticising.

An i-poker app/i-pad client would be wonderful news!

It already exists, but only a couple of sites at the minute
http://poker.bet365.com/extra/en/promotions/mobile-poker/

[DTD-Nick.W]

Agree with what others have said, I'd be more willing to give the cash tables online a go if the iPad/iPhone app was available.

Sign up anyway please sir! You'd only play online on a tablet?

I know a fair few people who only have tablets. Could be one of those?

of course, just wondered. Wasn't criticising.

An i-poker app/i-pad client would be wonderful news!

It already exists, but only a couple of sites at the minute
http://poker.bet365.com/extra/en/promotions/mobile-poker/

The mobile client is out on bet365 & one other operator at the moment - it only supports cashgames -
once we get a date to go live on DTD you guys will be the first to know however i suspect tournament tables will be later next year.