UKIPT HR

[Pinchop73]

Hello 

Played the UKIPT HR today. Fantastic comp btw just as I thought it would be.

We are around halfway into the level after dinner. 170 started, around 70 left with 27 paid.

An elder (French I'm almost certain) gentleman has newly arrived at my table.
Hasn't played a hand for 3 orbits, then opens to 2600 @ 500/1k playing 42k.

Folds to me in the bb with , I'm playing 38k.

I decide to peel.

Flop (pot 6600) 

I decide to c/r to 8200 after he'd cbet 2500.
He jams. I call it off.

1. Thoughts on pre given history and general population read?
2. Thoughts on flop line?
3. Thoughts on best general line in this spot vs this opponent type given equities?

Talk to me

[Tal]

You've disguised the strength of your hand and then (at the risk of making it look like my analysis is essentially "do any of my cards match any of those in the middle?") flopped one of your best possible. Getting the money in now seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Only thought is the flat followed by the check-raise is something that would very rarely make me think I should shove over the top. It seems strong to me. Really strong in this context. But there is a fair chance the villain has decided he has a good hand pre and is going to win this pot whatever it tales, making sure some laggy interweb kid doesn't rule the roost.

If he shows KK, we have to do a win from behind, but I am going all the way with this.

But you are in a high roller and I am not.

[stato_1]

I think anytime anyone uses the phrase check raise call it off, that's cos they pretty much know that when they get jammed on they're going to be in bad shape. That seems like the case here. Not sure why you've check raised the flop. Seems like the perfect hand to call with.

[Pinchop73]

Cheers for the input. That's a fair statement.

I've c/r as I wanted to realise my equity (maybe I've played too much plo lol) and felt this line was the best to achieve this.

C/c'ing obviously keeps his AxJd/KxJd in, and any pair with a blue card he may have chosen to cbet. We might be able to stack these hands on a 4th diamond. Might.
Pretty sure he'd have to be capable enough of folding 2pr, sets + straights on this line though as we're super face up.

Maybe that isn't the end of the world given the situation.
Hmm

[stato_1]

Thing is when you have a strong hand and strong draw such as this, you'll realise your equity anyway since there are so few turns we have to fold on

[AlexMartin]

cr confuses me, just perfect hand to have in c/c range. you bluffing? looks like you crush every draw and hes not folding better (i dont think?!)

[The Squid]

What do you mean you craise to realise your equity?? We're always gonna realise our equity because we have a hand which we're never fold ing on any turn to any size bet.

[Pinchop73]

Hands up, I worded that incorrectly.

I meant I wanted to ensure I get a full double up if we do manage to land the equity we have on the flop.

How's your HR going bud? glgl if going deep

[The Squid]

Nah ran up a big stack then lost a series of all-ins. Oh well big one tomoz.

[NoCardDSC]

I think c/c > leading > c/r, for pretty much the same reason as above.

[Nit Tendencies]

I think lead could be pretty cool as you would expect him to pot control this board with Ax almost always, and he will float you with some random one diamond hands which we crush. I think lead, lead, c/f is a pretty cool line.

[AlexMartin]

I think lead could be pretty cool as you would expect him to pot control this board with Ax almost always, and he will float you with some random one diamond hands which we crush. I think lead, lead, c/f is a pretty cool line.

could be cool for sure, people still cbet way too much though. Like when he says older gentleman, im seeing 77no d getting cbet here a chunk; deffo a hand that folds v a lead.

[SuuPRlim]

I think you're fairly compelled btw given the info you have (I know this is horrible stereo-typing and might be way off but its still SOME information and not NO information) with him being older and have not played a single hand out of the last 25~ that he is extremely strong PF and therefore he's liable to have hit this board hard enough to be bet/not-folding pretty often.

With this in mind I think we have a really really easy hand to play here, we can be very confident we win on a Jack and (obviously) win on a blue card, we have a fine stack to call flop and turn and we have a very easy river played if unimproved, basically we're never going to be in a tough spot post-flop, if it turns out the guy is a closet lunatic and goes BET BET BET with  then we had abso no way to know that and even considering this might be the case with the information we had would have been a mistake.

If he shuts down on the turn then its very likely we have the best hand although we cant really put any more monies in unimproved.

[dwayne110]

I agree with Dave. As strong a hand as we have, it's not strong enough to merit effectively gambling for the desired double up against hands happy to get it all in against us on this flop. Hands that call us are likely to consist of 2 pairs, sets and made flushes/the flopped straight.... there's also a strong chance villain will have blockers to some of our made outs. Pot control and play through the streets seems best line to me.

[The Squid]

I'm not advocating pot control. Our hand is very strong. We crush his range, but it's better to keep our range wide and allow him to bet some second best hands.