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« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2013, 11:43:01 AM »

btw if anyone would like to SEE my points highlighted in a practical light, you can sweat me playing online for 1hr one day and 95% gte you'll see exactly what online poker's biggest problems are.

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« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2013, 11:43:27 AM »

in fact I might make a video.
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« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2013, 11:58:02 AM »

 
in fact I might make a video.


I <3 to watch your video please mate . Lots to learn from the master
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« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2013, 12:47:21 PM »

in fact I might make a video.

Are we tailking poker or ladies of the night?
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« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2013, 01:42:45 PM »

can there be tables that don't allow it on sites that offer it on the normal tables?


both options win win.
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« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2013, 01:58:46 PM »

in fact I might make a video.

Are we tailking poker or ladies of the night?

Ha, these ladies will also operate in the day #flexible
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« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2013, 02:13:12 PM »

in fact I might make a video.

Are we tailking poker or ladies of the night?

Ha, these ladies will also operate in the day #flexible

I bet they are #gymnastics
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« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2013, 02:32:31 PM »

tl;dr

mod of the year, shoe in for the advent calendar.



Sense of humour bypass still holding up I see Patrick.

I lol'd at Red's post

I lol'd at Pleno's post


and then I rolled my eyes and sighed at your riposte Tom. Can you not just let this go? Far more important things happening in the world than your ongoing spat with Pleno.
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« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2013, 03:34:16 PM »

tl;dr

mod of the year, shoe in for the advent calendar.



Sense of humour bypass still holding up I see Patrick.

I lol'd at Red's post

I lol'd at Pleno's post


and then I rolled my eyes and sighed at your riposte Tom. Can you not just let this go? Far more important things happening in the world than your ongoing spat with Pleno.


I'm happy to let it go. In fact I had done so and was conversing with Patrick pleasantly when he decided to have another pop.

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« Reply #39 on: October 09, 2013, 04:20:39 PM »

Do tracking software, HUDs etc. afford "pro"s a bigger edge online than re-entry on multipe days affords them in live events?

From my point of view a staked pro who is able to fire six bullets at a tourney in which I and many others are only prepared to fire one or possibly two has an enormous edge, especially when he almost certainly has considerably more ability than me and my ilk in the first place.

If this is true then what is the difference?

Isn't that balanced out by the fact that the tournament offers you more value that it does him?

That would be true if all parties were of equal ability.
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« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2013, 04:24:56 PM »

Do tracking software, HUDs etc. afford "pro"s a bigger edge online than re-entry on multipe days affords them in live events?

From my point of view a staked pro who is able to fire six bullets at a tourney in which I and many others are only prepared to fire one or possibly two has an enormous edge, especially when he almost certainly has considerably more ability than me and my ilk in the first place.

If this is true then what is the difference?

Isn't that balanced out by the fact that the tournament offers you more value that it does him?

That would be true if all parties were of equal ability.

but there are plenty of serial re-entry'ers (of seemingly lesser ability) who (variance aside) are most often just increasing the prize pool for the benefit of a one bullet player?

I htink it could be argued both ways, positive and negative impacts.
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« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2013, 04:44:49 PM »

Do tracking software, HUDs etc. afford "pro"s a bigger edge online than re-entry on multipe days affords them in live events?

From my point of view a staked pro who is able to fire six bullets at a tourney in which I and many others are only prepared to fire one or possibly two has an enormous edge, especially when he almost certainly has considerably more ability than me and my ilk in the first place.

If this is true then what is the difference?

Isn't that balanced out by the fact that the tournament offers you more value that it does him?

That would be true if all parties were of equal ability.

but there are plenty of serial re-entry'ers (of seemingly lesser ability) who (variance aside) are most often just increasing the prize pool for the benefit of a one bullet player?

I htink it could be argued both ways, positive and negative impacts.

You certainly have a point and whilst it can be argued from both sides I've not heard one pro say that he/she didn't prefer re-entries as it obviously increases their edge over the field in much the same (albeit different) way that they can gain an edge over the field with online tracking software which btw amateur/rec. players are equally free to use should they so desire.
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« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2013, 04:57:31 PM »

Stato and co having 5 entries into comps is much worse for poker than HUDs. People who are going for merges are fantastic for the playerpool but having the bigger winners punt x3 or w/e is obviously bad for everyone. This is somewhat balanced by some of the bigger gamblers or guys who try and merge due to amount of satellite comps etc. I never play a $162 on ftp that has re-entry as I know all the strong players will take 3 shots and the weakest players are more likely to have 1. I think it is all about finding balance and for the most part the deepstacks seem spot on. Things like big UKIPT events definitely have more prestige because of the lack of re-entry though, imo.
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« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2013, 05:01:39 PM »

Stato and co having 5 entries into comps is much worse for poker than HUDs. People who are going for merges are fantastic for the playerpool but having the bigger winners punt x3 or w/e is obviously bad for everyone. This is somewhat balanced by some of the bigger gamblers or guys who try and merge due to amount of satellite comps etc. I never play a $162 on ftp that has re-entry as I know all the strong players will take 3 shots and the weakest players are more likely to have 1. I think it is all about finding balance and for the most part the deepstacks seem spot on. Things like big UKIPT events definitely have more prestige because of the lack of re-entry though, imo.

Stato having any entries into comps is bad for poker. Ban Stato imo, he's ruining the game, it's just not fair.
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« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2013, 05:19:14 PM »

Stato and co having 5 entries into comps is much worse for poker than HUDs. People who are going for merges are fantastic for the playerpool but having the bigger winners punt x3 or w/e is obviously bad for everyone. This is somewhat balanced by some of the bigger gamblers or guys who try and merge due to amount of satellite comps etc. I never play a $162 on ftp that has re-entry as I know all the strong players will take 3 shots and the weakest players are more likely to have 1. I think it is all about finding balance and for the most part the deepstacks seem spot on. Things like big UKIPT events definitely have more prestige because of the lack of re-entry though, imo.

Stato having any entries into comps is bad for poker. Ban Stato imo, he's ruining the game, it's just not fair.
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