We are all Aliens anyway...

[BangBang]

We’ve had loads of talk about religion on Red-Dogs thread, but we’re yet to question where we come from.  

Which really ties in with religion, different religions have different beliefs. Hinduism has lots of different interpretations and a common theme in Hinduism is that our deities brought us here from another planet. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread672580/pg1

I’ve heard other literal interpretations that we stem from two forms and evolved and spawn and expanded over the years, but I find this hard to fathom.

Dr Ellis Silver has wrote a study that suggests that humans aren’t from Earth based on our physiology and have arrived from somewhere else..

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/human-beings-came-from-another-planet--not-earth--new-book-claims-134335110.html#FHErsbz

Here's a piece from the article


“Mankind is supposedly the most highly developed species on the planet, yet is surprisingly unsuited and ill-equipped for Earth's environment: harmed by sunlight, a strong dislike for naturally occurring (raw) foods, ridiculously high rates of chronic disease, and more. Plus there's a prevailing feeling among many people that they don't belong here or that something "just isn't right".

[BorntoBubble]

Africa

[BangBang]

^ ^ ^ Is huge...

[rfgqqabc]

Interesting post and interesting forum. I could waste spend a lot of time on this forum. This topic does interest me a lot but it is hard to get good referenced information, particularly in favour of some of the more bizarre theories that are about. I really enjoyed this topic, despite not really believing the in favour side. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread313281/pg1&mem=

[kinboshi]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/human-beings-came-from-another-planet--not-earth--new-book-claims-134335110.html#FHErsbz

Here's a piece from the article


“Mankind is supposedly the most highly developed species on the planet, yet is surprisingly unsuited and ill-equipped for Earth's environment: harmed by sunlight, a strong dislike for naturally occurring (raw) foods, ridiculously high rates of chronic disease, and more. Plus there's a prevailing feeling among many people that they don't belong here or that something "just isn't right".

He completely misunderstands evolution and the concept of survival of the fittest through natural selection.

If mankind wasn't suited to living on earth, then why are there over 7,000,000,000 humans living on the planet at this very moment.  Humans live on every continent, and we've evolved to be adaptable to different climates and environments ranging from Arctic tundra through to tropical rainforest and everything in between.  We are the most adaptable large animal on the planet, so not sure why we're less suited to living here than any other species? We aren't 'harmed' by sunlight - it's a fundamental requirement for almost all life on this planet, especially humans.  It's like saying we're harmed by water.  I think overall having water and sunlight are good things for humans (and every other species of plant and animal on earth).  The 'ridiculously high rates of chronic disease' are obviously not ridiculously high as we have flourished as a species and the birth-rate > death-rate, which shows we're well suited for our environment to live and reproduce and therefore perpetuate the species.

Dare I even click on the link to read the other nonsense he's written?

[kinboshi]

If anyone questions why we have evolved the way we have (and that includes other species on earth as well), I'd suggest they read this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Selfish-Gene-Richard-Dawkins/dp/0192860925

[kinboshi]

Also, how does 'Dr' Ellis explain the DNA of humans being so close to every other species of life on the planet if it's just humans that 'arrived' separately on the planet already populated with all the other life?  Comparing our genes with our closest relatives (chimps and other great apes), we have a 95% 'match'.  In fact we share a 50% 'match' to bananas!  This is a hell of a coincidence if we didn't evolve here (along with everything else) and were dumped here by an alien taxi relatively recently.

[Ironside]

Boshi nothing was on earth when the aliens brought us here on noahs ark 

[doubleup]

Also, how does 'Dr' Ellis explain the DNA of humans being so close to every other species of life on the planet if it's just humans that 'arrived' separately on the planet already populated with all the other life?  Comparing our genes with our closest relatives (chimps and other great apes), we have a 95% 'match'.  In fact we share a 50% 'match' to bananas!  This is a hell of a coincidence if we didn't evolve here (along with everything else) and were dumped here by an alien taxi relatively recently.

Frankly disappointed that the dna argument came so late.

I think you should re-consider your position as forum bs-findergeneral.

[MrDickie]

Africa

I will write that down in my Filofax.

[BangBang]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/human-beings-came-from-another-planet--not-earth--new-book-claims-134335110.html#FHErsbz

Here's a piece from the article


“Mankind is supposedly the most highly developed species on the planet, yet is surprisingly unsuited and ill-equipped for Earth's environment: harmed by sunlight, a strong dislike for naturally occurring (raw) foods, ridiculously high rates of chronic disease, and more. Plus there's a prevailing feeling among many people that they don't belong here or that something "just isn't right".

He completely misunderstands evolution and the concept of survival of the fittest through natural selection.

If mankind wasn't suited to living on earth, then why are there over 7,000,000,000 humans living on the planet at this very moment.  Humans live on every continent, and we've evolved to be adaptable to different climates and environments ranging from Arctic tundra through to tropical rainforest and everything in between.  We are the most adaptable large animal on the planet, so not sure why we're less suited to living here than any other species? We aren't 'harmed' by sunlight - it's a fundamental requirement for almost all life on this planet, especially humans.  It's like saying we're harmed by water.  I think overall having water and sunlight are good things for humans (and every other species of plant and animal on earth).  The 'ridiculously high rates of chronic disease' are obviously not ridiculously high as we have flourished as a species and the birth-rate > death-rate, which shows we're well suited for our environment to live and reproduce and therefore perpetuate the species.

Dare I even click on the link to read the other nonsense he's written?

Great response, will reply later...

[kinboshi]

Also, how does 'Dr' Ellis explain the DNA of humans being so close to every other species of life on the planet if it's just humans that 'arrived' separately on the planet already populated with all the other life?  Comparing our genes with our closest relatives (chimps and other great apes), we have a 95% 'match'.  In fact we share a 50% 'match' to bananas!  This is a hell of a coincidence if we didn't evolve here (along with everything else) and were dumped here by an alien taxi relatively recently.

Frankly disappointed that the dna argument came so late.

I think you should re-consider your position as forum bs-findergeneral.

[redsimon]

If anyone questions why we have evolved the way we have (and that includes other species on earth as well), I'd suggest they read this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Selfish-Gene-Richard-Dawkins/dp/0192860925

nearly £40? is it written on gold leaf?

[BangBang]

Okay gonna finish late and maybe playing the HH super 50 tonight so I'll drop a few comments

I’m not suggesting that Dr Ellis is correct in his theory, but am suggesting that we need to be open to the endless possibilities that may come about as we start to understand our evolution more and more.

In the last 10,000 years the pace of evolution has sped up 100 times so what's triggered this? but right now some argue that evolution has stopped altogether for humans as we’ve found ways of keeping even our weakest alive through modern science.  If this is true will humans require more or less nutrients in the future and as our climate changes our natural resources change how will we adapt for these small changes? Technology and science is one thing but nature is something we can’t control.  Thus leads me to, if we were from another planet, depending on our genetic make-up wouldn't we have evolved & adapted with the conditions of this planet?  

We don’t know what kind of biology aliens have yet, so we can’t rule out that there maybe similarities between aliens and humans, as far fetched as it sounds, it’s something we can’t answer so can’t rule out.  

The report and study is not presented as fact and very little facts are actually presented, it’s a study to provoke debate on the topic.  

We'll go into genetics and the SRGAP2 tomorrow..

[AndrewT]

In the last 10,000 years the pace of evolution has sped up 100 times so what's triggered this?

Eh?

How has 'the pace of evolution sped up 100 times'?