couple of spots vs the wizard himself...

[rfgqqabc]

C/c turn in hand 2. Hate your betsizing on every street.

Hand 1 Open size could well be fine but I imagine you could just open bigger. Cbet size would be closer to 20.
Hand 2 I'd fold a heap pre, 3bet better than flat now, I like the 3bet size. I'd cbet bigger again, no way you go for £21 with many "value" hands. I'd bet 30. I would check/decide on the turn. As played, with the dynamics you have; flip a coin and decide, but before you put any chips in if it lands heads; say your feeling lucky. At least this way he doesn't know we are bet/calling 2nd pair in  3bet pots.

Bet/ snap call.

[Honeybadger]

Hand 1: Most options seem okay, but then you have flopped top set and so it is hard to go too wrong. I guess probably making a small 3bet on the flop is the best option, but with your likely image/dynamic I wouldn't hate just jamming it in.

Hand 2: Not sure why you choose this hand to 3bet with preflop. As played, I'd start by checking the flop.

[edgascoigne]

Bigger cbet hand one, mash it in you tw4t people think you're a loon and you have a great 3 card brag hand.

Fold pre hand two, don't mess around oop vs someone competent, you know this.

<3 you longtime and good to see you back.

[paulhouk03]

In hand two


 is that ur standard 3b size?

[jgcblack]

In hand two


 is that ur standard 3b size?

I'm not sure about this.

In games I'm comfortable in I will change my sizings a lot, smaller than expected, been introducing overbets and suchlike as I'm finding that a lot of people seem to react badly to them, from me.

The 3bt pre and cbet sizes vs Tom are completely indicitive of my entire range.  If I have the tope of my range I'm quite happy to either overbet turn or river, or both if necessary.... wouldn't exclude a Gascoigne-esque check raise on good cards.



Anyone fancy a stab at his turn range in hand 2?

[peejaytwo]

In hand 2 why do you want to pick a battle v a good player, OOP with QJ?

Just let him be table captain and keep ego and dick waving out of it. You can win by beating the others at the table.

[TL900]

dat 

[jgcblack]

In hand 2 why do you want to pick a battle v a good player, OOP with QJ?

Just let him be table captain and keep ego and dick waving out of it. You can win by beating the others at the table.

in a whole session of him at the table this is the only hand we played vs him oop without the nutz...
give me a break on the dick waving.


last time I checked we sometimes have to play oop vs a competent villain and choosing to do it with a hand that blocks a lot of the good hands cant be a huge error surely?  (Remember the 92o of the past!)

We cbet as we would our entire range on this board, and the turn is a pretty big brick.. it should make all his medium strength hands struggle and knowing how good Tom is, it does mean he will need to get aggressive with a large part of his range that were beating - AJo/ Axxdd/ 45hh/ 89dd etc...


What do we think he has for value in hand 2???

[peejaytwo]

What do we think he has for value in hand 2???

Well I think it narrows a lot when he calls your huge 3bet.
Why so big off a £200ish stack?
Once called your in a world of pain when a Qxx flop may not be good enough.
A couple of weeks ago I got owned by Liam Batey at Sheffield, next time he was at my table I wasn't gonna fall into the same trap. Just trying to make life as easy as possible for myself by beating the poorer players not the sickos

[jgcblack]

What do we think he has for value in hand 2???

Well I think it narrows a lot when he calls your huge 3bet.
Why so big off a £200ish stack?
Once called your in a world of pain when a Qxx flop may not be good enough.
A couple of weeks ago I got owned by Liam Batey at Sheffield, next time he was at my table I wasn't gonna fall into the same trap. Just trying to make life as easy as possible for myself by beating the poorer players not the sickos

We make it big pre compared with stack size because we expect him to peel way too wide vs me with position, so im punishing that 'mistake' with my whole range.  It also means I can have bigger or smaller bet sizings down le streets because of a bigger pot pre.  If I make it 2.5-3x pre he calls 100% and his position mean he's just going to win the pot all the time.

Granted, getting a Qxx board and not being good would suck.

[peejaytwo]

What do we think he has for value in hand 2???

Well I think it narrows a lot when he calls your huge 3bet.
Why so big off a £200ish stack?
Once called your in a world of pain when a Qxx flop may not be good enough.
A couple of weeks ago I got owned by Liam Batey at Sheffield, next time he was at my table I wasn't gonna fall into the same trap. Just trying to make life as easy as possible for myself by beating the poorer players not the sickos

We make it big pre compared with stack size because we expect him to peel way too wide vs me with position, so im punishing that 'mistake' with my whole range.  It also means I can have bigger or smaller bet sizings down le streets because of a bigger pot pre.  If I make it 2.5-3x pre he calls 100% and his position mean he's just going to win the pot all the time.

Granted, getting a Qxx board and not being good would suck.

But surely your mistake is folding out all mid pairs, sc's and one gappers etc that you're in front of. Isn't it the classic case of only getting called by hands that beat you?
Surely better ways of keeping him honest,
Think I'll stick to a more simpler game, it is live poker after all.

[jgcblack]

What do we think he has for value in hand 2???

Well I think it narrows a lot when he calls your huge 3bet.
Why so big off a £200ish stack?
Once called your in a world of pain when a Qxx flop may not be good enough.
A couple of weeks ago I got owned by Liam Batey at Sheffield, next time he was at my table I wasn't gonna fall into the same trap. Just trying to make life as easy as possible for myself by beating the poorer players not the sickos

We make it big pre compared with stack size because we expect him to peel way too wide vs me with position, so im punishing that 'mistake' with my whole range.  It also means I can have bigger or smaller bet sizings down le streets because of a bigger pot pre.  If I make it 2.5-3x pre he calls 100% and his position mean he's just going to win the pot all the time.

Granted, getting a Qxx board and not being good would suck.

But surely your mistake is folding out all mid pairs, sc's and one gappers etc that you're in front of. Isn't it the classic case of only getting called by hands that beat you?
Surely better ways of keeping him honest,
Think I'll stick to a more simpler game, it is live poker after all.

Yh, sounds like a good idea to me tbh...
Think you might be right about the folding out his bad stuff and getting called by the good.  Still can't convince myself he doesn't have x number of combos that have 20-35% and raise here... And most villains won't raise me here with just one pair - they don't need to if I'm barreling I guess.

[paulhouk03]

Results?

[TL900]

Results?

I had 45ss hand 1 and aces hand 2

[pleno1]

but how did they play out?