England World Cup squad/11

[celtic]

Why did I always think alverton was scottish?

[The Camel]

Rob Green has been in sparkling form.

Deserves another chance.

[Alverton]

Why did I always think alverton was scottish?

I live in Scotland.  I work in card rooms, so I may have spammed a tourney or two before Blonde went the way of DTD.  Might be why you thought I was Scottish.

[celtic]

Why did I always think alverton was scottish?

I live in Scotland.  I work in card rooms, so I may have spammed a tourney or two before Blonde went the way of DTD.  Might be why you thought I was Scottish.

That'll be it!

[BorntoBubble]

Really worried about hart at the minute as well. Two years ago so solid and a hope that we could keep some clean sheets. Now o my days he is all over the shot. The team looks so poor

Build a team around Rooney having a good world cup and then pray. Glad to see Carrick in a lot of teams England dont seem to feel the same way though. Hes probably been in the top 5 players at united for past 3 years now

[david3103]

Neither of Jones & Smalling warrant a place on current form. Dawson better than either, but obviously I hope their club form gets them there soon.

Sturridge a must to go and, again on current form,  definitely ahead of Welbeck.

[pleno1]

I still strongly believe nobody over the 31/32 mark should go.

My Squad would be

Goalkeepers - 3

Hart
Forster
Butland

Defenders - 7

Baines
Gibbs
Johnson
Walker
Jones
Smalling
Cahill

Midfielders - 8

Wilshire (Capt)
Lallana
Barkley
Townsend
Chamberlain
Zaha
Sterling
Rodwell

Forwards - 4

Rooney
Sturridge
Welbeck
Walcott
Carroll (if fit and on form instead of Lallana)

From the squad my first 11 is

                                   Hart

Walker            Jones              Cahill               Baines



Walcott          Rodwell           Wilshire         Chamberlain

                                  Rooney

                         Sturridge

Rodwell's whole inclusion would be dependent on him agreeing to go out on loan in January otherwise he's out the squad, Barkley starts in his place.
             
                 

gerrard and cole excluded because we have no chance on winning and planning for future?

ox better than townsend?

like phil jones inclusion ahead of jagielka too!

[pleno1]

Hart, Forster, Ruddy

Baines, A Cole, Cahill, Jagielka, P Jones, Smalling, Walker

Gerrard, Lampard, Wilshire, Carrick, Barkley, Townsend, Oxlade-Chamberlain

Rooney, Sturridge, Welbeck, Walcott, Lambert


Missing out

Foster, Butland

Gibbs (unlucky to be 3rd choice in our strongest position)

Johnson ( Jones covers rb)

Milner, Zaha (can't be picked if he doesn't play all season), Young

Defoe, Carroll

i just cant get away with ruddy being international class. Butland for future experience?

interesting you choose walker ahead of johnson too.

not criticising just saying interesting choice, i thought johnosn would be a stone cold lock.

[pleno1]

not a chance in the world Gerrard and Lampard won't go, probably as the last tournament for each

Gerrard is captain FFS. Has to be first name down on any 22 Ray!

No he doesn't, he was Captain to get us there, doesn't mean he has to go.

They've had there chance, they've done nothing in a major tournament, they don't deserve to go to another big tournament so they can have a lovely time enjoying the end of there career.

Anyone tell me the last time they thought England as a whole team played better than average in a game in a major tournament ? It almost certainly wasn't in the last two tournaments we played, in between the one we failed to even qualify for!

Everybody says we can't win in Brazil, I agree, so why take players who won't be able to play in Euro 2018, what's the point in that ?

As an aside, how can Gerrard be on anyone's squad sheet ahead of Rooney ?

i kinda agree with you, if they didnt do anything in their prime why will they now?

if we go with 4-3-3 and need one front man I genuinely think its close between Rooney and Sturridge, but think most of the midfield 3 has to have Gerrard just because Wilshire and rest are not good enough. Sad state of affairs.

[pleno1]

What do people think about Terry being brought back?

Could he get a call? would he deserve it? would he accept it?

id take it. I really think Jagielka is weak link and Cahill and Terry know eachother from club, with Cole next to them they will know eachother v well and we need to defend good!

Johnson and Terry also know eachother well.

[pleno1]

Not convinced Townsend will def go, or play a major part if he does. Needs to maintain the form he shown so far, and I'm not sure he will.

I think our midfield is jsut so weak and he got us there with 2 great performances, I think he will def go, but as a starter, Im not sure.

[pleno1]

Neither of Jones & Smalling warrant a place on current form. Dawson better than either, but obviously I hope their club form gets them there soon.

Sturridge a must to go and, again on current form,  definitely ahead of Welbeck.

Dawson is behind them because they are more versatille. Almost definitely the wrong spelling!

[Ant040689]

Been keeping a close eye on the goalies for England and think it is wide open now for Forster to really push for the number one spot. Think it will be unlikely, as I do think Hart will retain his position for the world cup, but if it is going to be another guy I think it will be Forster.

I think Hart has been bad of late and has deserved to be dropped by his club, Ruddy has been awful from what I have seen of him recently, Butland should never even be mentioned as I have no idea why he has been so overhyped, just never will be a long term premier league goalkeeper imo. I want him to prove me wrong, but I just see so many fundamental mistakes in his game.

Foster has been out for a while now and could push for a spot but he has been pretty shaky, and then there is Rob Green who I think may bottle another chance if given one so wouldn't be a wise choice.

I think Forster could be given the go ahead in future games for England, perhaps throwing him into a world cup finals is hasty considering his international experience, but on goalkeeping skills alone, I think he pushes Hart close, but only close considering Hart is acting very weak at the moment.

Hart on form cannot be touched by any other England Goalkeeper. Forster could maybe run him close but he would need to start playing a higher standard of football, quickly, for comparisons to be fair and to really see if Forster could step up to the plate in goal at the best level. I think he could easily, and it is a shame he isn't in the prem.

With Forster, I thought he was magnificent for Norwich when he played for them, but that was capped at the Championship. Then while at Celtic, people are always going to argue that he isn't playing a high enough standard of football to compare with the other goalkeepers, which I think only goes so far. Of course it would be better for him to be playing in England's top flight, but it doesn't mean he isn't already a great goalkeeper. His exploits in the CL somewhat prove that.

I thought £2m that Celtic paid for him was a complete steal and couldn't quite understand why Newcastle let him go, yes Tim Krul is great, but I would have been keen in doing a rotation with them both. Or if you are going to let him go, how hasn't a prem club not gone in for him. Probably because of his age and his non top flight experience, but he was oozing talent then and he is now.

Anyway, Hart, Forster and Foster I think will make the cut for the three that are going, but with Foster fearing he is third choice, may be a complete prick and retire again, paving the way for Ruddy.

[anthonyl]

Incredible talent watching the schoolboy game.

Plays like messi. Marcos Edwards.

Will be playing for England at the euros.

[mondatoo]

Ricky Lambert a lock for his mad pen skillz ?

33 out of 33, wow.