GUKPT/Genting Poker Series clash in 2014

[bergeroo]

Seems like GUKPT and Genting have decided to schedule the first tournaments of their 2014 seasons on the same weekend. 7-9 February 2014. This seems like an incredibly stupid decision, especially as there seems to be a free weekend following it. Anyone know people that organise these tours so they can 'ave a word? If one of them moves a week later then there are four weeks in a row with 4 good comps. UKIPT Edinburgh, GPS, GUKPT and the Sky 1k at DTD. There is no sense at all for them to clash, it will hurt numbers in both events and the players miss out. If one of them moves now then I don't imagine anyone will have booked travel or hotels yet, so it will cause minimal problems

[TightEnd]

Yes. I will send this to Raf at Genting to pass on

[relaedgc]

Both sides are aware.

[bergeroo]

Birmingham--> London is a large shared pool of players. I'm sure many people would want to play them both.

I believe GUKPT moved the grand final to a week earlier this year to avoid clashing with UKIPT. It's not an ego thing to move your tourney, just a sensible decision that is better for everyone. Other times when there are clashes there is a stagger so if you bust one you can play 1b the next day at the other tourney, but 1a and 1b are both set to be on the same day too.

Spose if enough people say they would play them both, then common sense prevails. Both companies want to make money and have a prestigious tour with big numbers I'm sure.

[tikay]

Both sides are aware.

Ha! Beautifully worded, an exercise in brevity.

Therein, presumably, lies a story.....

You are a proper diplomat these days George.

[Doobs]

Seems like GUKPT and Genting have decided to schedule the first tournaments of their 2014 seasons on the same weekend. 7-9 February 2014. This seems like an incredibly stupid decision, especially as there seems to be a free weekend following it. Anyone know people that organise these tours so they can 'ave a word? If one of them moves a week later then there are four weeks in a row with 4 good comps. UKIPT Edinburgh, GPS, GUKPT and the Sky 1k at DTD. There is no sense at all for them to clash, it will hurt numbers in both events and the players miss out. If one of them moves now then I don't imagine anyone will have booked travel or hotels yet, so it will cause minimal problems

GUKPT London is so much more prestigious than the Genting one. 

[bergeroo]

Sure. Longer running. The buy in is bigger too. But you don't pay your bills with prestige. Both of them are great comps.

[Doobs]

Sure. Longer running. The buy in is bigger too. But you don't pay your bills with prestige. Both of them are great comps.

 

[AndrewT]

If one of them moves a week later then there are four weeks in a row with 4 good comps. UKIPT Edinburgh, GPS, GUKPT and the Sky 1k at DTD.

If there were 4 good comps in a row, how many players would travel to play all four? Players buying in with their own money.

[bergeroo]

If one of them moves a week later then there are four weeks in a row with 4 good comps. UKIPT Edinburgh, GPS, GUKPT and the Sky 1k at DTD.

If there were 4 good comps in a row, how many players would travel to play all four? Players buying in with their own money.

Not sure what that means?

But there are tonnes of sats for UKIPT, Sky and Genting. Not so much GUKPT. It is quite feasible to sat into several of these. I understand sometimes two comps are on the same weekend, but Birmingham and London are really close to each other

[Dubai]

Don't seem that much of an issue. One is £400 up northish, one is £1000 in London. Surely a wide enough differential to attract different crowds. Not like all the old boys from the vic are gonna travel up to play a £400, similarly loads of small stakes players up that way aren't gonna come down to play a 1k.

It's more of an issue when the buyins are similar surely?

[bergeroo]

also wasn't necesarily saying loads of people will play all 4, more saying, there are prob 51 viable weekends to run a poker tourney in the UK. There are three tours with 8-12 legs each, plus a few bigger one offs, DTD, ISPT etc. Don't see why someone from each tour can't have a phone call each November and co-ordinate the dates. Certain weekends, eg bank holiday are clearly better but most weekends are basically the same. There are plenty of weekends for everyone in the calendar year and it makes no sense for two tournaments to be on in the same geographical area on the same day.

[bergeroo]

One is £400 up northish,

Midlands

But I take your point. Still think there is an overlap of 50-100 people that might play them both.

[AndrewT]

If one of them moves a week later then there are four weeks in a row with 4 good comps. UKIPT Edinburgh, GPS, GUKPT and the Sky 1k at DTD.

If there were 4 good comps in a row, how many players would travel to play all four? Players buying in with their own money.

Not sure what that means?

But there are tonnes of sats for UKIPT, Sky and Genting. Not so much GUKPT. It is quite feasible to sat into several of these. I understand sometimes two comps are on the same weekend, but Birmingham and London are really close to each other

It means what it says it means - how many players would play all four, players who are buying in with their own money (not sponsored pros)?

If these 4 tourneys generally had half the field that were the same in each one then, yeah, having them clashing would hurt numbers.

But, as others have said, they're geographically and financially different enough for this not to be an issue.

Even the sats thing is a red herring - if two tourneys are on the same weekend then if you win a sat for one don't try and qualify for the other one ldo.

[Raf White]

We are aware after the publication of the GukPT dates that there is a clash with our leg at Star City.

There should be an announcement in the next few days.