best or worst river card

[TL900]

PokerStars Hand #107830124847: Tournament #821821386, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXV (1400/2800) - 2013/11/30 22:34:16 WET [2013/11/30 17:34:16 ET]
Table '821821386 29' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: WhoAreYoux1 (106417 in chips)
Seat 2: darek12 (71084 in chips)
Seat 3: NicNacZH (46935 in chips)
Seat 4: Lioncard77 (20214 in chips)
Seat 5: Plu2niumwife (18560 in chips)
Seat 6: buytenwegh (30920 in chips)
Seat 7: Mt.Spewmore (142487 in chips)
Seat 8: MAKKAPAKK (75358 in chips)
Seat 9: Jabracada (194755 in chips)
WhoAreYoux1: posts the ante 350
darek12: posts the ante 350
NicNacZH: posts the ante 350
Lioncard77: posts the ante 350
Plu2niumwife: posts the ante 350
buytenwegh: posts the ante 350
Mt.Spewmore: posts the ante 350
MAKKAPAKK: posts the ante 350
Jabracada: posts the ante 350
buytenwegh: posts small blind 1400
Mt.Spewmore: posts big blind 2800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Mt.Spewmore [X X]
MAKKAPAKK: folds
Jabracada: raises 2884 to 5684
WhoAreYoux1: folds
darek12: folds
NicNacZH: folds
Lioncard77: folds
Plu2niumwife: folds
buytenwegh: folds
Mt.Spewmore: calls 2884
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Mt.Spewmore: checks
Jabracada: bets 6081
Mt.Spewmore: calls 6081
*** TURN *** [ ] []
Mt.Spewmore: checks
Jabracada: bets 11220
Mt.Spewmore: raises 18895 to 30115
Jabracada: calls 18895
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
Mt.Spewmore:

50 left in the big109 villian is well known very good UK reg.

We have a bluff on the river with no boat blockers.

Pot is 85k we have 98k back, give up/54k/jam?

[rfgqqabc]

Wouldn't you size turn a touch bigger if you had a made hand to set up a psb? Or raise flop? I think I like giving up tbh. History?

[DMorgan]

Any significant history? I like giving up too at this point

[Rexas]

What exactly are we repping ott?

[The Squid]

Main problem is how strong his range is for betting twice and calling a craise. We running into an auto call here a lot.

[The Squid]

1/4 pot to get him to fold AJcc/Atcc?

[Q8Holds]

I think its a bad spot to bluff

KK,QQ gets 3bet pre, 44 can be a fold sometimes 88 doesn't get to the turn.

KQ      are the only hands your repping and im not sure all these hands play this way all of the time so pretty sure hes calling a high % of the time.


Although I think hes calling the turn very wide so that would be the only reason for me to bluff the river.

[muckthenuts]

Thoughts on pre? Would fold i think.

[TL900]

Any significant history? I like giving up too at this point

Wouldn't you size turn a touch bigger if you had a made hand to set up a psb? Or raise flop? I think I like giving up tbh. History?

No history of note most of our play together has been early levels.

I felt like his range was capped at Kx and the occasional backdoor flush whereas I can have all boats except 88 and lots of spade flushes

I think its a bad spot to bluff

KK,QQ gets 3bet pre, 44 can be a fold sometimes 88 doesn't get to the turn.

KQ      are the only hands your repping and im not sure all these hands play this way all of the time so pretty sure hes calling a high % of the time.


Although I think hes calling the turn very wide so that would be the only reason for me to bluff the river.

Wouldnt always 3b KK/QQ in this spot, would never fold 44 and would call all of K8s K4s Q8s combos.

Main problem is how strong his range is for betting twice and calling a craise. We running into an auto call here a lot.

Is it really that strong though? He never has 2pr+ when he calls ott right?

[dakky]

I like betting small to try and fold out combodraws that missed. Do you have any blockers in your hand?

[TL900]

I have the 

[muckthenuts]

Not 3betting KK seems insane? Peeling pre also seems not good to me. Oppenent is good and we hold a bad/dominated hand. Don't really see what we're hoping for tbh. Lots of potential for reverse implied and sticky spots like now.

[lucky_scrote]

I probs 3bet all my really good hands vs jabra because he opens so wide and I do throw in a few 3bets with some garbage.