Bleh, vs a fish though

[lucky_scrote]

PokerStars Hand #107879673713: Tournament #822511928, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (1500/3000) - 2013/12/01 21:33:10 WET [2013/12/01 16:33:10 ET]
Table '822511928 96' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Stev0L_ (40884 in chips)
Seat 2: Frisco119 (27812 in chips)
Seat 3: Meskalindatu (17726 in chips)
Seat 4: zangalli (141356 in chips)
Seat 5: danistheking (234540 in chips)
Seat 6: PLO UFO (106306 in chips)
Seat 7: blowknockout (21140 in chips)
Seat 8: torres2626 (73660 in chips)
Seat 9: Skipper-dawn (70844 in chips)
Stev0L_: posts the ante 300
Frisco119: posts the ante 300
Meskalindatu: posts the ante 300
zangalli: posts the ante 300
danistheking: posts the ante 300
PLO UFO: posts the ante 300
blowknockout: posts the ante 300
torres2626: posts the ante 300
Skipper-dawn: posts the ante 300
Stev0L_: posts small blind 1500
Frisco119: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to danistheking [ ]
Meskalindatu: folds
zangalli: raises 3000 to 6000
danistheking: calls 6000
PLO UFO: folds
blowknockout: folds
torres2626: folds
Skipper-dawn: folds
Stev0L_: folds
Frisco119: folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
zangalli: checks
danistheking: bets 12345
zangalli: calls 12345
*** TURN *** [ ] []
zangalli: checks
danistheking: bets 18000
zangalli: calls 18000
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
zangalli: bets 30000
danistheking:

Guy opens wide-ish from EP/MP and 100% from CO/BTN/SB so far. He's very passive post and has pretty much checked every flop and turn he's been involved in. I bet the flop and turn really quickly because he doesn't really think much but on the river he timed down a little and then bet.

[pleno1]

id fold looks like some kind of value line, wug turn tho?

[TL900]

fold pre ainec imo

[dakky]

yea im folding pre with 5 behind and a few jamming stacks

[lucky_scrote]

fold pre ainec imo

Yeah sigh, this is a pretty bad peel with a couple of shorties behind.

[Oxford_HRV]

the turn is worse than the call pre lol. FYL

[lucky_scrote]

the turn is worse than the call pre lol. FYL

Don't agree with this. The guy is a fish and plays really passive. I can list a lot of hands he peels with that I beat which include pair and/or club draws. I wouldn't be surprised if he would call with just something like K9/A9 no club. I didn't bet particularly big because I obv don't want him to fold out junk hands but it's much better to bet than check when villain likes to go to a lot of showdowns.

[Oxford_HRV]

the turn is worse than the call pre lol. FYL

Don't agree with this. The guy is a fish and plays really passive. I can list a lot of hands he peels with that I beat which include pair and/or club draws. I wouldn't be surprised if he would call with just something like K9/A9 no club. I didn't bet particularly big because I obv don't want him to fold out junk hands but it's much better to bet than check when villain likes to go to a lot of showdowns.

well you're right if he's the type of fish that calls a lot but is really passive. They are bad at maximising value out of their
strong hands, but that means basically whenever this guy takes initiative we should just fold. ofc there are a ton of hands he does peel that we beat, but we shouldnt level ourselves into considering the entire range when he bets river, because these guys just have it ffs.

[lucky_scrote]

Yeh I folded river. He just has to have it surely.