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« on: December 04, 2013, 02:32:27 AM »

dont have hh, 215 toughish online comp

the big blind is 30 chips, mp1 opens to 60 from a 3k stack, mp2 and the button call and were in the BB with AK and 3k.

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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2013, 02:43:30 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2013, 09:28:22 AM »

I still like a call here pre antes and under rep our hand later on but be prepared to not dust off loads of chips on certain runouts
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2013, 02:03:42 PM »

I still like a call here pre antes and under rep our hand later on but be prepared to not dust off loads of chips on certain runouts

So we are going ballistic on A and K high boards because our hand is under-repped?

If table is tough then yeah 300 is a good size here, will go more in something bowl.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2013, 02:08:59 PM »

I still like a call here pre antes and under rep our hand later on but be prepared to not dust off loads of chips on certain runouts

So we are going ballistic on A and K high boards because our hand is under-repped?

If table is tough then yeah 300 is a good size here, will go more in something bowl.

Nah he means on A/K high board we're going to be vs ranges with plenty of dominated 1pair hands that will likely value-cut themselves I believe
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2013, 02:09:48 PM »

almost always calling
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2013, 02:18:10 PM »

Interesting it was from a sam squid video where I assumed raise>call but was kids convinced on call>raise by end
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2013, 02:35:53 PM »

I used to always call this spot and i was adimant it was the right play but now i always 3b it i think both have alot of merit and not too much downside tbh.
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2013, 02:53:24 PM »

Interesting it was from a sam squid video where I assumed raise>call but was kids convinced on call>raise by end

its just the awkwardness of playing oop vs good oponents this early
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2013, 03:21:32 PM »

So what is our 3bet range?

#mttbasics
#learningtooldsandresources?
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2013, 03:34:11 PM »

Aces, and I'd flat suited aces for balance, and maybe a couple of off suited combos of KK.
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2013, 07:59:18 PM »

I still like a call here pre antes and under rep our hand later on but be prepared to not dust off loads of chips on certain runouts

So we are going ballistic on A and K high boards because our hand is under-repped?

If table is tough then yeah 300 is a good size here, will go more in something bowl.

Nah he means on A/K high board we're going to be vs ranges with plenty of dominated 1pair hands that will likely value-cut themselves I believe
Cheers Dave, sorry was posting quickly before flying but you explained what I was thinking.
I personally prefer calling as if table is tough don't we jus get pwned oop vs someone decent when we miss and they peel the cb, it's very hard for us to win this pot unless we get the barrels out but why do this oop so early?
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2013, 12:43:00 PM »

So what is our 3bet range?

#mttbasics
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do you need to build a 3bet range here do you think? Kinda feels like one of those spots where you can just let your natural carddmanship take over and just do whatever you feel like?
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2013, 01:19:10 PM »

Never gonna get history anyway. Either is fine though surely.
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