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« on: December 09, 2013, 01:32:57 AM »

Bit of an ICM whale so thought i'd post this. Structure is as follows:

1st - $27.8k
2nd - $20.7k
3rd - $14.7k
4th - $10.1k
5th - $7.5k

No Limit Hold'em Tournament T75,000/T150,000
Buy-in: $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit
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5 players
Formatted by pokercopilot.com - Mac OS X hand history analysis and tracking

Stacks:
UTG - UTG (T873,850)
CO - CO (T2,235,054)
BTN - BTN (T1,303,066)
SB - SB (T5,087,772)
BB - Hero (T1,123,258)

Preflop: (T318,750, 5 players) Hero is BB with
3 folds, SB raises to T5,069,022 (all-in), Hero ?
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2013, 01:46:09 AM »

No way its as tight as JJandelis posted.

I think we call like 55+A9+ and KQ.
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2013, 01:47:17 AM »

Folds, yeah definitely not as tight as JJ, like rfgqqabc's range.

Not run any numbers but I'd venture that this is very close to 0EV call even if we know he's shoving any 2
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2013, 01:48:58 AM »

Fold

Call JJ+, AKs

Wish I could pop up icmizer but not got word etc for screenshots

Feel like this is ridiculously tight, way too much for my liking. Prolly getting it in here with like an ever so slightly wider range than picken, but not very much, maybe like A5ss, A8os, KJ, 55, maybe QJss
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2013, 01:50:15 AM »

Who is SB? If he's a winning turbo player here he should have any two cards. I'd jam 23o here.

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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2013, 01:52:32 AM »

I think it's quite close tbh, you're 4/5 but 5th is only slightly shorter than you.

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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2013, 01:55:02 AM »

I think my range is probably too tight too fwiw.
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2013, 01:55:53 AM »

i wanna call.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2013, 02:01:41 AM »

I just ran ICMIZER, had to put all the numbers in manually (thanks op!)

(24.7%) 55+,A2s+,A5o+,K7s+,K9o+,Q9s+,QTo+,JTs

It shows QJo as making you $482 on the call and QTo/A2s/JTs are close to break even calls. Even though 55 is at the bottom of your calling range, it still makes you $1500 on the call.

I think other factors are whether the sb is jamming ATC. He should, he makes a lot of chips doing so and even good turbo players don't call correctly. Pretty hard to make good decisions here all the time when there is so much $$ at stake and your timebank is probably low at this point. Also, if some of the other players are dreadful and their calling/jamming ranges are way off then you can make folds if it's close here.
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2013, 02:02:55 AM »

I just ran ICMIZER, had to put all the numbers in manually (thanks op!)

(24.7%) 55+,A2s+,A5o+,K7s+,K9o+,Q9s+,QTo+,JTs

It shows QJo as making you $482 on the call and QTo/A2s/JTs are close to break even calls. Even though 55 is at the bottom of your calling range, it still makes you $1500 on the call.

I think other factors are whether the sb is jamming ATC. He should, he makes a lot of chips doing so and even good turbo players don't call correctly. Pretty hard to make good decisions here all the time when there is so much $$ at stake and your timebank is probably low at this point.

What about vs top 60/80%? If its easy to change that is.
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2013, 02:05:42 AM »

I just ran ICMIZER, had to put all the numbers in manually (thanks op!)

(24.7%) 55+,A2s+,A5o+,K7s+,K9o+,Q9s+,QTo+,JTs

It shows QJo as making you $482 on the call and QTo/A2s/JTs are close to break even calls. Even though 55 is at the bottom of your calling range, it still makes you $1500 on the call.

I think other factors are whether the sb is jamming ATC. He should, he makes a lot of chips doing so and even good turbo players don't call correctly. Pretty hard to make good decisions here all the time when there is so much $$ at stake and your timebank is probably low at this point.

What about vs top 60/80%? If its easy to change that is.

FFS I just closed it down, went to re-open and it crashed. I'd imagine if he's only jamming 80% then you only have to fold a couple more hands, all the Qx and Jx hands will still be in his jamming range.

60% obv going to be a lot different though, you'd have to be pretty terrible to be in the SB and just jamming 60% of your range though.
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2013, 02:08:57 AM »

Ok got it up, changed his jamming range to 80% and it makes QJo a fold.

(17.9%) 66+,A4s+,A7o+,K9s+,KTo+,QTs+

If it's not a reg then you can maybe adjust your range slightly, but even recs and fish often understand they can jam ATC here. Less likely to be a passive fishy player with so many chips at a turbo final too.
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2013, 02:18:25 AM »

Had seen him jam earlier in a similar spot BvB with 95ss so assumed he was jamming almost ATC here.
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2013, 02:20:46 AM »

95s is a pretty good hand though, he may not shove t2, j3, q4 but shove 95s or 64s
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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2013, 02:45:19 AM »

we've gotta gamble, i'm happy calling, can be ahead a fair chunk of the time and dominating more than were dominated.

question for you guys, anyone going with T9s here? or folding?
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