Marine sent to prison

[BangBang]

When I read strong comments about how posters would/should act in a warzone I always imagine them sitting on the sofa with a cup of tea and a rich tea biscuit.

Rich tea biscuits? had you down as a Hobnobs man...

well we have PHA board surely we can have a WZA thread

Lol @Mantis at not reading the posts... Read the posts then reply, instead of making assumptions...

What did I assume?

I posted the image I have in my head...which is a fact.

You were the one assuming...because you assumed I liked Hobnobs...which is actually true...but hey it might not have been.

Hobnobs are the King of biscuits, after Oreo's of course..

[millidonk]

Utter shit has been posted itt!

Foxes vianese melts are the king of biscuits.

Choccie hob nobs are the Prince Harry of the biscuit world. Everyone loves em but you don't bring em out for a party!

[BangBang]

Utter shit has been posted itt!

Foxes vianese melts are the king of biscuits.

Choccie hob nobs are the Prince Harry of the biscuit world. Everyone loves em but you don't bring em out for a party!

Heavy artillery right there..

I have two words for you  - "Wagon Wheels" 

[celtic]

Bang bang has lost the plot.

He is the mint club of blonde.

[BangBang]

Bang bang has lost the plot.

He is the mint club of blonde.

I just like a lot of chocolate on my biscuit .... 

[Ironside]

milk chocolate hobnob /end thread

[Kmac84]

After Bloody Sunday I am surprised that anyone is surprised by the actions on the British Army.  Its far too easy to say that its just a few bad apples but there are countless episodes of military personnel being involved in the illicit and unlawful killings of both combatants and non-combatants. 

Obviously not all servicemen and woman are bad apples but its far more than is reported imho. 

<Huge sigh>

Why huge sigh? The MOD and Government done their best to cover this up, they even blamed the protestors. It took nearly 40 years for the truth to be admitted.

It's not like that was the only time British guns were turned on civilians.

Did you happen to see the documentary on the BBC a few weeks back about some covert stuff the forces were up to? Pretty harrowing but to many there was nothing new in it.

Also what about the Forces day at Ibrox recently when hundreds of serving personnel were involved in blatant acts of sectarianism, how can they then claim to be impartial?

I wouldn't say I was overtly Republican, I believe in Ireland's right (the whole island to self determination) in the same way I support Independence for Scotland. Similarly I support the rights of the people of Catalonia to decide their own futures.

Personally I would have more respect for the forces if they were more transparent and truthful about their actions. But regardless of wether it's war or not you can't go killing unarmed civilians or captured prisoners and from Afghanistan to the Falklands from Ireland to Iraq from Kenya to India there are many blood stained hands.

[Ironside]

After Bloody Sunday I am surprised that anyone is surprised by the actions on the British Army.  Its far too easy to say that its just a few bad apples but there are countless episodes of military personnel being involved in the illicit and unlawful killings of both combatants and non-combatants. 

Obviously not all servicemen and woman are bad apples but its far more than is reported imho. 

<Huge sigh>

Why huge sigh? The MOD and Government done their best to cover this up, they even blamed the protestors. It took nearly 40 years for the truth to be admitted.

It's not like that was the only time British guns were turned on civilians.

Did you happen to see the documentary on the BBC a few weeks back about some covert stuff the forces were up to? Pretty harrowing but to many there was nothing new in it.

Also what about the Forces day at Ibrox recently when hundreds of serving personnel were involved in blatant acts of sectarianism, how can they then claim to be impartial?

I wouldn't say I was overtly Republican, I believe in Ireland's right (the whole island to self determination) in the same way I support Independence for Scotland. Similarly I support the rights of the people of Catalonia to decide their own futures.

Personally I would have more respect for the forces if they were more transparent and truthful about their actions. But regardless of wether it's war or not you can't go killing unarmed civilians or captured prisoners and from Afghanistan to the Falklands from Ireland to Iraq from Kenya to India there are many blood stained hands.

you do realise that a number of people on this forum are serving and form army personal and you have just accused us a large number of being complict in murder

[BangBang]

After Bloody Sunday I am surprised that anyone is surprised by the actions on the British Army.  Its far too easy to say that its just a few bad apples but there are countless episodes of military personnel being involved in the illicit and unlawful killings of both combatants and non-combatants.  

Obviously not all servicemen and woman are bad apples but its far more than is reported imho.  

<Huge sigh>

Why huge sigh? The MOD and Government done their best to cover this up, they even blamed the protestors. It took nearly 40 years for the truth to be admitted.

It's not like that was the only time British guns were turned on civilians.

Did you happen to see the documentary on the BBC a few weeks back about some covert stuff the forces were up to? Pretty harrowing but to many there was nothing new in it.

Also what about the Forces day at Ibrox recently when hundreds of serving personnel were involved in blatant acts of sectarianism, how can they then claim to be impartial?

I wouldn't say I was overtly Republican, I believe in Ireland's right (the whole island to self determination) in the same way I support Independence for Scotland. Similarly I support the rights of the people of Catalonia to decide their own futures.

Personally I would have more respect for the forces if they were more transparent and truthful about their actions. But regardless of wether it's war or not you can't go killing unarmed civilians or captured prisoners and from Afghanistan to the Falklands from Ireland to Iraq from Kenya to India there are many blood stained hands.

Not the right forum/thread for this debate... Like Ironside said, there are many service men on this forum and your views valid or not maybe slightly disrespectful to those who are giving there lives protecting your freedoms..

Maybe a conversation for another thread..  

[BangBang]

milk chocolate hobnob /end thread

Utter shit has been posted itt!

Foxes vianese melts are the king of biscuits.

Choccie hob nobs are the Prince Harry of the biscuit world. Everyone loves em but you don't bring em out for a party!

 

[Kmac84]

After Bloody Sunday I am surprised that anyone is surprised by the actions on the British Army.  Its far too easy to say that its just a few bad apples but there are countless episodes of military personnel being involved in the illicit and unlawful killings of both combatants and non-combatants. 

Obviously not all servicemen and woman are bad apples but its far more than is reported imho. 

<Huge sigh>

Why huge sigh? The MOD and Government done their best to cover this up, they even blamed the protestors. It took nearly 40 years for the truth to be admitted.

It's not like that was the only time British guns were turned on civilians.

Did you happen to see the documentary on the BBC a few weeks back about some covert stuff the forces were up to? Pretty harrowing but to many there was nothing new in it.

Also what about the Forces day at Ibrox recently when hundreds of serving personnel were involved in blatant acts of sectarianism, how can they then claim to be impartial?

I wouldn't say I was overtly Republican, I believe in Ireland's right (the whole island to self determination) in the same way I support Independence for Scotland. Similarly I support the rights of the people of Catalonia to decide their own futures.

Personally I would have more respect for the forces if they were more transparent and truthful about their actions. But regardless of wether it's war or not you can't go killing unarmed civilians or captured prisoners and from Afghanistan to the Falklands from Ireland to Iraq from Kenya to India there are many blood stained hands.

I can't even be bothered rising to this tat. I'll let you go back to polishing your Martin McGuiness shrine. I'm not in the least bit sectarian. I despise that stuff.

Tat? What part of it isn't a truth or have you been brainwashed by your time in the forces believing all actions are for the greater good.

As for Martin McGuiness I have absolutely no time for him or his pal from up in Belfast. This debate is not about them though it's about the British Army. I am more than happy to discuss the characters of Adams and McGuiness on another thread.

I am also glad to read that you are not sectarian, because neither am I. I abhor it, but sadly others in the forces don't.

I fully appreciate this is an emotive issue but you can't defend and deflect actions then bow out when you don't like the issues raised by those who take a different view.

@ Ironside, frankly I don't care that there may be members of this forum who serve or have served. It's a public forum and as long as my views are neither malicious or trolling I believe I am entitled to air them. I can't help the fact that you have issues with reading and believe I said those on here were complicit in murder. Perhaps that's guilt?

[Jon MW]

After Bloody Sunday I am surprised that anyone is surprised by the actions on the British Army.  Its far too easy to say that its just a few bad apples but there are countless episodes of military personnel being involved in the illicit and unlawful killings of both combatants and non-combatants.  

Obviously not all servicemen and woman are bad apples but its far more than is reported imho.  

<Huge sigh>

Why huge sigh? The MOD and Government done their best to cover this up, they even blamed the protestors. It took nearly 40 years for the truth to be admitted.

It's not like that was the only time British guns were turned on civilians.

Did you happen to see the documentary on the BBC a few weeks back about some covert stuff the forces were up to? Pretty harrowing but to many there was nothing new in it.

Also what about the Forces day at Ibrox recently when hundreds of serving personnel were involved in blatant acts of sectarianism, how can they then claim to be impartial?

I wouldn't say I was overtly Republican, I believe in Ireland's right (the whole island to self determination) in the same way I support Independence for Scotland. Similarly I support the rights of the people of Catalonia to decide their own futures.

Personally I would have more respect for the forces if they were more transparent and truthful about their actions. But regardless of wether it's war or not you can't go killing unarmed civilians or captured prisoners and from Afghanistan to the Falklands from Ireland to Iraq from Kenya to India there are many blood stained hands.

I can't even be bothered rising to this tat. I'll let you go back to polishing your Martin McGuiness shrine. I'm not in the least bit sectarian. I despise that stuff.

Tat? What part of it isn't a truth or have you been brainwashed by your time in the forces believing all actions are for the greater good.

As for Martin McGuiness I have absolutely no time for him or his pal from up in Belfast. This debate is not about them though it's about the British Army. I am more than happy to discuss the characters of Adams and McGuiness on another thread.

I am also glad to read that you are not sectarian, because neither am I. I abhor it, but sadly others in the forces don't.

I fully appreciate this is an emotive issue but you can't defend and deflect actions then bow out when you don't like the issues raised by those who take a different view.

@ Ironside, frankly I don't care that there may be members of this forum who serve or have served. It's a public forum and as long as my views are neither malicious or trolling I believe I am entitled to air them. I can't help the fact that you have issues with reading and believe I said those on here were complicit in murder. Perhaps that's guilt?

What you write doesn't sound like an objective, fact based assessment. It sounds like left-wing/socialist assumptions.

I'm assuming, for example that when you say that people have been 'brainwashed' it's because they've been told things you disagree with - but when you're told things you agree with, then that counts as 'The Truth'?

A fair number of people can quite easily recognise when someone is working on blind faith and that it's useless to argue with them; that is the most likely reason I wouldn't expect 'much' of an argument about this.

[Ironside]

After Bloody Sunday I am surprised that anyone is surprised by the actions on the British Army.  Its far too easy to say that its just a few bad apples but there are countless episodes of military personnel being involved in the illicit and unlawful killings of both combatants and non-combatants. 

Obviously not all servicemen and woman are bad apples but its far more than is reported imho. 

<Huge sigh>

Why huge sigh? The MOD and Government done their best to cover this up, they even blamed the protestors. It took nearly 40 years for the truth to be admitted.

It's not like that was the only time British guns were turned on civilians.

Did you happen to see the documentary on the BBC a few weeks back about some covert stuff the forces were up to? Pretty harrowing but to many there was nothing new in it.

Also what about the Forces day at Ibrox recently when hundreds of serving personnel were involved in blatant acts of sectarianism, how can they then claim to be impartial?

I wouldn't say I was overtly Republican, I believe in Ireland's right (the whole island to self determination) in the same way I support Independence for Scotland. Similarly I support the rights of the people of Catalonia to decide their own futures.

Personally I would have more respect for the forces if they were more transparent and truthful about their actions. But regardless of wether it's war or not you can't go killing unarmed civilians or captured prisoners and from Afghanistan to the Falklands from Ireland to Iraq from Kenya to India there are many blood stained hands.

I can't even be bothered rising to this tat. I'll let you go back to polishing your Martin McGuiness shrine. I'm not in the least bit sectarian. I despise that stuff.

Tat? What part of it isn't a truth or have you been brainwashed by your time in the forces believing all actions are for the greater good.

As for Martin McGuiness I have absolutely no time for him or his pal from up in Belfast. This debate is not about them though it's about the British Army. I am more than happy to discuss the characters of Adams and McGuiness on another thread.

I am also glad to read that you are not sectarian, because neither am I. I abhor it, but sadly others in the forces don't.

I fully appreciate this is an emotive issue but you can't defend and deflect actions then bow out when you don't like the issues raised by those who take a different view.

@ Ironside, frankly I don't care that there may be members of this forum who serve or have served. It's a public forum and as long as my views are neither malicious or trolling I believe I am entitled to air them. I can't help the fact that you have issues with reading and believe I said those on here were complicit in murder. Perhaps that's guilt?

you will find that most of the former/serving members of the army on this thread are all for the jail sentence of marine A and any other member of the forces that commit murder
you on the other hand sound like a blinkered shite bag

[celtic]

A blinkered shite bag? Classy.

He has stated he has no time for mcguiness/Adams. But has rightly pointed out that the British army have been guilty of some atrocious acts of violence and killing. That's fact. Not blinkered thinking.

I watched the panorama programme too, it was given from the point of special forces. They admitted a lot of the stuff they done, wasn't quite legal.

[Ironside]

A blinkered shite bag? Classy.

He has stated he has no time for mcguiness/Adams. But has rightly pointed out that the British army have been guilty of some atrocious acts of violence and killing. That's fact. Not blinkered thinking.

I watched the panorama programme too, it was given from the point of special forces. They admitted a lot of the stuff they done, wasn't quite legal.

special forces are not quite your average joe squaddie there are less than 200 men in the special forces at one time,
also panaroma is a program with an agenda the people involved in the making
of that program are not always who they say they are and also will exaggerate too make make tv
this is hardly indication of widespread murder by the british army.