Marine sent to prison

[Woodsey]

I'm in two minds about this, yes he broke the law but war is war. God knows why he allowed that cam footage to be seen by the wrong people.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24870699

[Ricardov83]

Even in war there are rules.

Nothing justifies this.

Whether the enemy would do the same to them is not relevant.

[RED-DOG]

I'm in two minds about this, yes he broke the law but war is war. God knows why he allowed that cam footage to be seen by the wrong people.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24870699

I don't think the wrong people saw it, I think the right people saw it.

[Doobs]

I thought about this after hearing Michael Adebolajo justifying his actions by saying he is a soldier.  If he was a soldier that would make his actions even more wrong.

[Woodsey]

I thought about this after hearing Michael Adebolajo justifying his actions by saying he is a soldier.  If he was a soldier that would make his actions even more wrong.

I wish somebody had shot him dead tbh, no apologies for saying that either.

[BangBang]

just watched the Video, in two minds about it, on one hand the guy was an insurgent & would have killed the marines if he had a chance on the other side why kill someone that is already injured, while having had all the training warranted to become a royal marine.

These guys are marines and are giving their lives to fight for our oil freedoms still think this trial should have been privatus for the families sake.

[BangBang]

I'm in two minds about this, yes he broke the law but war is war. God knows why he allowed that cam footage to be seen by the wrong people.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24870699

I don't think the wrong people saw it, I think the right people saw it.

Not sure about your comment here Tom? Who are you defining as the right people? You know that the whole thing will be used as propaganda against this country, even though these marines where tried and convicted by the UK courts..

[RED-DOG]

I'm in two minds about this, yes he broke the law but war is war. God knows why he allowed that cam footage to be seen by the wrong people.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24870699

I don't think the wrong people saw it, I think the right people saw it.

Not sure about your comment here Tom? Who are you defining as the right people? You know that the whole thing will be used as propaganda against this country, even though these marines where tried and convicted by the UK courts..

In think the right people were those who could prosecute a soldier for shooting a prisoner in cold blood and wilfully breaking the Geneva convention.

It makes a mockery of the very values we are fighting for. If we condone such behaviour, we're no better than them.

[Acidmouse]

The worrying thing is the way they are talking, this obviously happens a lot. Second nature to them.

If you do this type of shit then you can never take the moral high ground in conflicts, you cant complain when they gas you, torture, rape etc etc...you are as bad as them.

[BangBang]

I'm in two minds about this, yes he broke the law but war is war. God knows why he allowed that cam footage to be seen by the wrong people.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24870699

I don't think the wrong people saw it, I think the right people saw it.

Not sure about your comment here Tom? Who are you defining as the right people? You know that the whole thing will be used as propaganda against this country, even though these marines where tried and convicted by the UK courts..

In think the right people were those who could prosecute a soldier for shooting a prisoner in cold blood and wilfully breaking the Geneva convention.

It makes a mockery of the very values we are fighting for. If we condone such behaviour, we're no better than them.

For prosecution yes, but this trial should have never been made public, ever, this is the type of thing terrorists use to radicalize individuals.  

War is war and there will be casualties, yes I agree that this should never have happened, but there has to be some damage limitation, why make public something that in the wrong hands can be used as a weapon..  

So my view is that we the public should never have been privy to this whole thing it should have remained Privatus..

[RED-DOG]

I'm in two minds about this, yes he broke the law but war is war. God knows why he allowed that cam footage to be seen by the wrong people.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24870699

I don't think the wrong people saw it, I think the right people saw it.

Not sure about your comment here Tom? Who are you defining as the right people? You know that the whole thing will be used as propaganda against this country, even though these marines where tried and convicted by the UK courts..

In think the right people were those who could prosecute a soldier for shooting a prisoner in cold blood and wilfully breaking the Geneva convention.

It makes a mockery of the very values we are fighting for. If we condone such behaviour, we're no better than them.

For prosecution yes, but this trial should have never been made public, ever, this is the type of thing terrorists use to radicalize individuals.  

War is war and there will be casualties, yes I agree that this should never have happened, but there has to be some damage limitation, why make public something that in the wrong hands can be used as a weapon..  

So my view is that we the public should never have been privy to this whole thing it should have remained Privatus..

I disagree.

If we make it public it shows that we don't condone or tolerate such behaviour.

Not only must Justice be done, it must also be seen to be done.

[Woodsey]

Comment from a service person I know, this is obviously not an uncommon occurrence (partly why I posted this in the first place)

'War is horrible on both sides and this poor guy broke the 11th commandment …thou shalt not get caught'

[BangBang]

I'm in two minds about this, yes he broke the law but war is war. God knows why he allowed that cam footage to be seen by the wrong people.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24870699

I don't think the wrong people saw it, I think the right people saw it.

Not sure about your comment here Tom? Who are you defining as the right people? You know that the whole thing will be used as propaganda against this country, even though these marines where tried and convicted by the UK courts..

In think the right people were those who could prosecute a soldier for shooting a prisoner in cold blood and wilfully breaking the Geneva convention.

It makes a mockery of the very values we are fighting for. If we condone such behaviour, we're no better than them.

For prosecution yes, but this trial should have never been made public, ever, this is the type of thing terrorists use to radicalize individuals.  

War is war and there will be casualties, yes I agree that this should never have happened, but there has to be some damage limitation, why make public something that in the wrong hands can be used as a weapon..  

So my view is that we the public should never have been privy to this whole thing it should have remained Privatus..

I disagree.

If we make it public it shows that we don't condone or tolerate such behaviour.

Not only must Justice be done, it must also be seen to be done.

I guess we won't know who's opinion is correct for a while.. I really hope you're right here Tom but I'm afraid this will be used as a radicalization tool, remember the people who we are discussing, may not hold the same ideals as you, or me for that matter, so only time will tell...

[RED-DOG]

I'm in two minds about this, yes he broke the law but war is war. God knows why he allowed that cam footage to be seen by the wrong people.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24870699

I don't think the wrong people saw it, I think the right people saw it.

Not sure about your comment here Tom? Who are you defining as the right people? You know that the whole thing will be used as propaganda against this country, even though these marines where tried and convicted by the UK courts..

In think the right people were those who could prosecute a soldier for shooting a prisoner in cold blood and wilfully breaking the Geneva convention.

It makes a mockery of the very values we are fighting for. If we condone such behaviour, we're no better than them.

For prosecution yes, but this trial should have never been made public, ever, this is the type of thing terrorists use to radicalize individuals.  

War is war and there will be casualties, yes I agree that this should never have happened, but there has to be some damage limitation, why make public something that in the wrong hands can be used as a weapon..  

So my view is that we the public should never have been privy to this whole thing it should have remained Privatus..

I disagree.

If we make it public it shows that we don't condone or tolerate such behaviour.

Not only must Justice be done, it must also be seen to be done.

I guess we won't know who's opinion is correct for a while.. I really hope you're right here Tom but I'm afraid this will be used as a radicalization tool, remember the people who we are discussing, may not hold the same ideals as you, or me for that matter, so only time will tell...

It wouldn't matter what we did, or what action we took or didn't take, radicals would distort it the serve their ends.

"If you ban bear to hear the truth you've spoken, twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools...."

[Ironside]

we all know this sot of thing goies on as a former squaddie i kinda feel it gors on alot more often than most people would think
but you dotn do it infront of a camera and if you do you make sure the footage is lost for ever
once footage is found then there is nothing else that can be done
if there is an attempt at cover up then it will come out

the marine should spend his time in a military jail thought and his name should not be in public domain