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« on: February 16, 2014, 11:35:07 AM »

Hand 1, SB has only raised once previously OTB, he made quite  a big raise. I/m in the SB, bb was away, that time I 3 bet and he folded.

Would you just call here?

Folds round to the button. I'm in SB with   6988 stack, blinds are 150/300. Villian has 9k

Flop     . Villian bets 650, I re raise to 1800 he folds. Just call this bet? I felt he'd call the raise.

Hand 2, I'm in the cut of,   , I have 8816 chips, blinds are 40/80, UTG has limped, I min raise to 160, just noticed this is a mistake, should have went bigger.He has 9.8k chips.

Every else folds. Limper calls.

Flop;

Vilian donk bets 400 (3/4 pot) I just call. He's been quiet up till now. I decide to just call. I didn't want to bloat the pot, or face  are  a4 bet if raised. I think he's strong here, 2 pair min, and decide to call, if I hit my flush/ board doesn't pair, i'm winning a bit pot. I like this line against this villain, just don't like its a bit passive I have to fold the river.

Turn , Villian bets 880, I call. River  , Villian bets 990, I fold. I know it's a gret price, however I don't think I can ever be good here, so fold??

Hand 3,  Blinds 75/150, I have   , i'm in the cutoff, 1 limper, I raise to 450. BB makes up, limper calls.

Flop;  two hearts

It checks round.

Turn; , Original Limper bets 150, into a pot of 1575, I call and BB calls. I'm going to raise any river bet, bet if checked too. Maybe jus raise turn here and now?? I just call.

River;  , It checks round I bet 1500 (pot in 1800ish)



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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2014, 07:12:07 PM »

Hand 1, SB has only raised once previously OTB, he made quite  a big raise. I/m in the SB, bb was away, that time I 3 bet and he folded.

Would you just call here?

Folds round to the button. I'm in SB with   6988 stack, blinds are 150/300. Villian has 9k

Flop     . Villian bets 650, I re raise to 1800 he folds. Just call this bet? I felt he'd call the raise.

Hand 2, I'm in the cut of,   , I have 8816 chips, blinds are 40/80, UTG has limped, I min raise to 160, just noticed this is a mistake, should have went bigger.He has 9.8k chips.

Every else folds. Limper calls.

Flop;

Vilian donk bets 400 (3/4 pot) I just call. He's been quiet up till now. I decide to just call. I didn't want to bloat the pot, or face  are  a4 bet if raised. I think he's strong here, 2 pair min, and decide to call, if I hit my flush/ board doesn't pair, i'm winning a bit pot. I like this line against this villain, just don't like its a bit passive I have to fold the river.

Turn , Villian bets 880, I call. River  , Villian bets 990, I fold. I know it's a gret price, however I don't think I can ever be good here, so fold??

Hand 3,  Blinds 75/150, I have   , i'm in the cutoff, 1 limper, I raise to 450. BB makes up, limper calls.

Flop;  two hearts

It checks round.

Turn; , Original Limper bets 150, into a pot of 1575, I call and BB calls. I'm going to raise any river bet, bet if checked too. Maybe jus raise turn here and now?? I just call.

River;  , It checks round I bet 1500 (pot in 1800ish)




TLDR. Try and make these a little clearer and simple. Maybe ask less questions. First hand you have the same ace that's flops.
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2014, 07:14:40 PM »

Appreciate that's not really helpful at this point. My head hurts sifting through this though.
Definitely go hand by hand and make the action a little clearer. Cheers.
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2014, 01:53:46 AM »

Hey Sulpher,

Just had a look at this yeah looks pretty atrocious! Hand 1, the ace of c on the flop is a typo lol like you said I hold it in my hand.

They were hands I had written down, that I wanted to have a look at afterwards, I thought they were interesting at the time.

Just had a look at them again, they are not interesting in the slightest.

Pretty obvious hands, cheers for having a look anyway.

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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2014, 11:35:14 AM »

Mate its no problem. Would love you to get the most from this and think just posting one up at a time would be best.
Got a few things on this morning I will look through and give answers to these early this afternoon I promise. And hopefully that will
help a little.

Its refreshing to see somebody take what could be seen as criticism in a positive manner.
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2014, 11:54:32 AM »

Try and think in terms of how meny BB's you are playing and what is best to do with certain stack sizes.
Lots of articles on line regarding this subject. Dan Harrington uses a term called M which is basically how meny
rounds of the table you will last with your chip stack. Worth a look.

Regarding the first hand I would definitely raise preflop.(you only have 23bbs pretty short stacked) Although you have to see what flops and decide whats best from there. In this case he really cant have much to play back at you after you flop the world so in this instance I would just call and try to get some
more from him on later streets. If he has nothing the only way you will get paid is him bluffing.

Hand two you could make it bigger pre agreed. Not a huge problem though. And you have 110bb's so no need to go nuts have no problem here personally with playing this hand in such a passive manner. At least we look busy and don't lose much. You will get a better feel for these hands the more you play.

Hand three is a little messy no stack size or info on Villain either. Don't see much point in getting overly involved in these spots just keep things simple for yourself. Tight is right :-) Would read a few articles on 3bets just to get more comfortable with that would be my suggestion.

Good luck keep posting.

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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2014, 12:40:37 PM »

Hand 1: Don't know the preflop action but I probs 3bet get it in vs the button, we should probably be crushing his button opening range. As played I flat flop, we look really strong when we play back on any A high board after flatting pre from the blinds. People play Axx flops very face up so it's hard for you to get him involved with Qx hands. Think I may then donk turns.

Hand 2: As you've stated I probs make it 3x if I'm going to iso in this spot. Don't mind your line after that, think I lean towards a flop raise since donkleads tend to mean they are trying to protect a marginal hand. As played think I fold as he could have lead Q10/QJ/910/9J hands.

Hand 3: I lead flop, although probs flat behind pre. Agree we are in position and makes hand easier to play, but pre ante it has to work a lot more often for it to be profitable. Also it means you don't get into these awkward spots post flop. As played I lead flop, as said players play Axx flops very face up, it's easy to put a players range in a box when they flat and can just give up from there.
As played I flat turn and give up riv, no need to apply pressure so early on in an MTT.
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2014, 07:44:26 PM »

Hand 1:
3bet call pre. Anything other than this is not good, don't see any merits to flatting pre. If he 3xs pre I might just 3bet jam rather than 3bet-call, but it should go in pre 100%.

Hand 2:
Pre should be more, 2.5-3x. Think you've played it fine post. Calling flop is pretty standard, keep all his dominated draws in, still kinda disguised when you get there. Raise-getting it in here obviously can't be that bad either, but would flat as standard.

Hand 3:
I would usually c-bet here, can give up if called. As played calling turn is fine I guess as it's basically a check, but I wouldn't be going ballistic on brick rivers. Mostly because you've called 150 on the turn and now trying to rep a hand that bets 80% pot.... not exactly sure what you would ever do that with. Plus if someone has Ax... people don't much like folding top pair.
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2014, 03:37:19 AM »

Thanks everyone for the replies.

Hand 2; i don't mind my line in this hand, i think he was really strong here. Hand 3 is just a bit of a silly hand.

Hand 1; The reason i didn't 3 bet was 2 orbits previously he had raised, and i had 3 bet and he had folded. I was thinking i want to keep in his junk.

I have 20 odd bigs, is this not to big a stack to 3 bet jam? I don't like my line in this hand post flop, i really need to call (the flop raise) here as played.

Was a bit gutted the villian went out about 10 hands later, he jammed 10s, on a AJx board lol
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2014, 04:54:16 AM »

20 bigs is the optimal 3bet jam stack size. Nothing wrong with raising him
less than all in though. As big as you feel you can really.

WotRTheChances and JGill_DTD give you some excellent feedback here too.
Have a read regarding M (Inflection points) and 3betting.
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