Dusk Till Dawn - April £500 Deepstack 8 Max £150,000 GTD *New and Improved*

[Woodsey]

Why are you persisting with the re-buy/add on format?  There's an overlay for a reason.  There seems little point in advertising to those with smaller bankrolls that they can get in the £500 deepstack for a minimal amount, but then putting them at a huge disadvantage when they can't afford the £50 add on to get double the chips.  Those who might look to satellite in are satelliting in for a reason.  To then expect them to fork out a further £50 (when they won their seat through a £5 satellite) seems a tad unreasonable.

Just work your way up from the $1 games and penny rolls so it doesn't cost you that much. The guarantees will be a lot lower if the RB/add ons are stopped. I'm perfectly happy if other people with more money than me want to contribute to the pot. Sure, I may not sat in every time I want to, but when I do its costing me naff all.

[Vinodh]

Why are you persisting with the re-buy/add on format?  There's an overlay for a reason.  There seems little point in advertising to those with smaller bankrolls that they can get in the £500 deepstack for a minimal amount, but then putting them at a huge disadvantage when they can't afford the £50 add on to get double the chips.  Those who might look to satellite in are satelliting in for a reason.  To then expect them to fork out a further £50 (when they won their seat through a £5 satellite) seems a tad unreasonable.

unfortunately these sats are no longer aimed at the smaller bankrolls...agree...the freezeouts were great but double stack add ons totally benefit the bigger bank balances.

I never realised they had changed (again) till you said...at least i got the grand prix to look forward to.

Totally agree with all of the above.  Its impossible to get a seat in this format without at least 1 rebuy or add on. Freeze out sats were much better. You qualify from 5 feeder and get registered automatically in the 9pm sat. You can't unregister from that if you want to late register. This is totally putting me off...

Not an accurate statement I can assure you   , but I would hazard a guess that 90% of people who have won seats have either had a rebuy or add on.

I do agree that for the players playing the £5 feeder with a limited bankroll it does put them at a distinct disadvantage when they qualify for the £50 , which in effect is really a £100 , to win a £500 seat.

Dtd are stuck between a rock and a hard place and cannot satisfy everyone's optimum bank roll and guarantee loads of seats.

Not sure what the answer is but it only needs tweaking a bit to accommodate the smaller bankroll.

I can see a THIN BRAG there;) wd James!!!

[Vinodh]

Moan, moan, moan    ....     let's put 20 seat guarantees on - @ £10k a time, HUGELY OVERLAID, for a tuppence ha'penny buy-in, then all thank DTD for their generosity!
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no one is moaning here nor suggests that what Dtd are doing is wrong.. just some suggestions to make the structure better to accommodate all bankrolls. A freezeout satellite with 1 or 2 seats to start at 7 or 8 pm would be great as well.

[EvilPie]

What the hell are people banging on about here?!?!

Of course it's difficult to win a £550 seat for £5!! You're 110x 'ing your buy in!

People who put in £100 deserve to have a better chance of winning £550, they've put 20x as much money in the pool.

Either play it or don't but as someone has pointed out quit moaning please or they'll stop doing them.

[TightEnd]

and don't forget the Penny rolls at 5pm nightly

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It would be fantastic this weekend to see someone take down a lump having started in the penny rolls......



Anyway, I have passed on the comments to DTD, some useful feedback for them

[TightEnd]

Meanwhile, these satellites are incredibly generous....

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the 7pm feeder has 20 seats GTD into the 9pm too.....and the 9pm can be won without the add on, but obviously taking it is preferable if you can

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[EvilPie]

Moan, moan, moan    ....     let's put 20 seat guarantees on - @ £10k a time, HUGELY OVERLAID, for a tuppence ha'penny buy-in, then all thank DTD for their generosity!
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no one is moaning here nor suggests that what Dtd are doing is wrong.. just some suggestions to make the structure better to accommodate all bankrolls. A freezeout satellite with 1 or 2 seats to start at 7 or 8 pm would be great as well.

People with £50 to spend aren't going to buy in to a tournament with 1 or 2 seats guaranteed when there's a 20 seat guaranteed starting in an hour.

The only people who would play these are the £5 sat brigade and unfortunately there aren't enough of them to generate £1100 worth of seats.

[Woodsey]

What the hell are people banging on about here?!?!

Of course it's difficult to win a £550 seat for £5!! You're 110x 'ing your buy in!

People who put in £100 deserve to have a better chance of winning £550, they've put 20x as much money in the pool.

Either play it or don't but as someone has pointed out quit moaning please or they'll stop doing them.

This, they are great value....

[DTD-ACES]

Hi guys

Average spend is £80 on these sats - to win 20 x £550 that seems about right - 1 in 6 or 7 getting seat. For 20 seats GTD thats not bad or am i missing something?

When I play WSOP sats in Vegas, I actually choose to play 1 in 5 rather than 1 in 10, other players choose the 1 in 10.

The 1R 1A format is the best format to combine 'everyone' IMO.

Incidentally - these sats overlay for a reason- because we set them up to overlay by putting 20 seats up in the first place! That's how we choose to add value to players online, especially our loyal club players.

Cheers ACES

[arbboy]

If it ain't for you then don't play it.

Let others take advantage of the value

Well played DTD keep em coming

If you can't afford £50 for an add on when you have bought into an effective £105 comp for £55 with a £5 token (if you take the add on) then maybe winning a seat and playing a £150k comp with £30k+ first prize is slightly out of your bankroll.  Stick to the Grand Prix.  Higher bank roll customers do want these big £150k deepstack gtd's and in order for these to run DTD have to run these rebuy sats to get the runners.

[arbboy]

What the hell are people banging on about here?!?!

Of course it's difficult to win a £550 seat for £5!! You're 110x 'ing your buy in!

People who put in £100 deserve to have a better chance of winning £550, they've put 20x as much money in the pool.

Either play it or don't but as someone has pointed out quit moaning please or they'll stop doing them.

Big +1 to this.  Worded much better than my reply!

[Woodsey]

If it ain't for you then don't play it.

Let others take advantage of the value

Well played DTD keep em coming

If you can't afford £50 for an add on when you have bought into an effective £105 comp for £55 with a £5 token (if you take the add on) then maybe winning a seat and playing a £150k comp with £30k+ first prize is slightly out of your bankroll.  Stick to the Grand Prix.  Higher bank roll customers do want these big £150k deepstack gtd's and in order for these to run DTD have to run these rebuy sats to get the runners.

It doesn't need to be out of anyone's bankroll when there are £1 and £5 sats running for fun every day. I also think most people could afford the 50 quid for an add on too if they wanted. However what they probably can't afford is slippery slope of the extra 50 quid on a couple of occasions every week, with all the sats for the various events that are constantly running. Before you know it you have done 500 quid in a month in dribs and drabs which is a lot of money for us fish that play for fun, that's the way I view it anyway. People should just play a lot more of the lower sats if they are finding it expensive.

[RobS]

The online leg is still showing the old structure. Also it is set to start at 10pm, is that right or a mistake with the clocks going forward?

[arbboy]

The other way to look at it is like Camel does and say how can i find a better value 100/1 shot to turn a fiver into £550 to buy straight in with cash.  Given the overlays in the sats literally no one is a 100/1 shot to win a £5 feeder and then win a seat in the £500 from the £50 rebuy sat even without the add on.

[GlennDuskTillDawn]

The online leg is still showing the old structure. Also it is set to start at 10pm, is that right or a mistake with the clocks going forward?

Hi,

It was set up as a template from the old one and we're changing it now.

Glenn