Just Win Baby?

[The Camel]

When you play poker, would you rather be thethe guy who is perceived to be the best or the guy that makes the most money?

For me it's not close.

Using the poker analogy..

For supporters of most teams in the Premier League if you liken a season to a poker tournament the absolute best that's going to happen is a min cash.

You have zero chance of making the final table let alone winning the thing.

Isn't that a bit bloody boring?

[bagel]

poker wise ,as a low stakes recreational player, i can beat sit and goes pretty comfortably if i can be bothered churning them out.
 i cant be bothered because i dont enjoy them. way to monotonous.

i play large field tourneys. very low stakes. and mostly i enjoy them a lot.

unless you are playing for a living, then surely it makes more sense to play what you actually enjoy than what you can make a bit of profit from.

at the low stakes i am very confident in stating that the vast majority of players are not getting much fun out of it.in fact lots of the players probably hate it and get stressed when they lose. been there myself. not in a rush to go back.

my mate plays similar tourneys to me and blinds down playing like a nit. always moans.

i get in loads of flips and often get huge stacks and spew it all off, once in a while get a decent bink.

i know who enjoys it more whatever the end result.

drunk, rambling again, point is that unless you are a proffesional, dont worry to much if you are losing a few quid.

or if your football team is shite and you have lost a semi final.

at home.

[GreekStein]

When you play poker, would you rather be thethe guy who is perceived to be the best or the guy that makes the most money?

For me it's not close.

Using the poker analogy..

For supporters of most teams in the Premier League if you liken a season to a poker tournament the absolute best that's going to happen is a min cash.

You have zero chance of making the final table let alone winning the thing.

Isn't that a bit bloody boring?

I'll let Mitch answer that one...

[cambridgealex]

Just showed how results orientated football supporters are.

Gerrard doesn't slip, the game likely finishes 0-0 or we win. Mourinho fked it and BR has "got one over on him".

He does slip however, and Chelsea nick and goal and Mourinho is a tactical genius.

Last night's game shows how "special" JM really is imo.

[GreekStein]

Was play shit and win nothing an option?

genuinely lol'd. wp.

It would hurt more if we deserved to win, but we didn't so no complaints here. Athletico were the better team - good luck to them in the final. Football was the winner last night.

[George2Loose]

Just showed how results orientated football supporters are.

Gerrard doesn't slip, the game likely finishes 0-0 or we win. Mourinho fked it and BR has "got one over on him".

He does slip however, and Chelsea nick and goal and Mourinho is a tactical genius.

Last night's game shows how "special" JM really is imo.

The irony being you're being results oriented

[mondatoo]

Just showed how results orientated football supporters are.

Gerrard doesn't slip, the game likely finishes 0-0 or we win. Mourinho fked it and BR has "got one over on him".

He does slip however, and Chelsea nick and goal and Mourinho is a tactical genius.

Last night's game shows how "special" JM really is imo.

Will admit I was very surprised to see he's lost his last four CL semi finals.

Confirmed all media hype, man's a clown.

[GreekStein]

The posts by people like Baron and Alex on Mourinho really are very stupid though.

He studied and worked his way up from the very bottom. He worked as a PE teacher, youth team coach, interpreter for the late Bobby Robson, scout and assistant manager.

Then he took over a small Portuguese club and took them to their highest ever league finish before winning the league, UEFA cup and champions league with Porto!!

Then he came to Chelsea and we won the league for the first time in 50 years with something like 95 points.

Following that, he took over at Inter Milan and won the League and Italian cup.

Then he won the copa del rey in his first season at Real Madrid and the League in the following year.

Since Chelsea replaced him, we have had 8 managers, including Carlo Ancellotti, Guus Hiddink, Rafa Benitez and Luis Felipe Scolari and not a single one of them did as good a job as Mourinho.

To say he makes the team play boring football is fine but two bitter Liverpool fans insulting the man's talent is just rediculous.

[booder]

Will admit I was very surprised to see he's lost his last four CL semi finals.

I believe it is 1 win from 8 Semi finals with Chelsea, and 3 goals scored in total.

[Karabiner]

@Greeky: I'm not sure what makes you think that Porto is "a small Portuguese club" as they are one of Portugal's "big three", founded in1893, and have never been relegated from their top division which was formed in 1933.

They have won 67 Portuguese domestic league titles including five in a row from 1994/5 to 1998/9. They also won the Champion's League in 1987 and 2004.

[GreekStein]

@Greeky: I'm not sure what makes you think that Porto is "a small Portuguese club" as they are one of Portugal's "big three", founded in1893, and have never been relegated from their top division which was formed in 1933.

They have won 67 Portuguese domestic league titles including five in a row from 1994/5 to 1998/9. They also won the Champion's League in 1987 and 2004.

Ralph, my wording was poor but it wasn't Porto I was alluding to when I said he took a small portuguese club to their highest finish. I'd wiki'd it now and it was a team called União de Leiria.

When Porto won it in 2004 no-one expected that they would.

[Karabiner]

@Greeky: I'm not sure what makes you think that Porto is "a small Portuguese club" as they are one of Portugal's "big three", founded in1893, and have never been relegated from their top division which was formed in 1933.

They have won 67 Portuguese domestic league titles including five in a row from 1994/5 to 1998/9. They also won the Champion's League in 1987 and 2004.

Ralph, my wording was poor but it wasn't Porto I was alluding to when I said he took a small portuguese club to their highest finish. I'd wiki'd it now and it was a team called União de Leiria.

When Porto won it in 2004 no-one expected that they would.

Sorry mate, just reread your post and understand how you meant it now.

No denying Jose's a serious achiever, but I simply don't appreciate his act.

[GreekStein]

@Greeky: I'm not sure what makes you think that Porto is "a small Portuguese club" as they are one of Portugal's "big three", founded in1893, and have never been relegated from their top division which was formed in 1933.

They have won 67 Portuguese domestic league titles including five in a row from 1994/5 to 1998/9. They also won the Champion's League in 1987 and 2004.

Ralph, my wording was poor but it wasn't Porto I was alluding to when I said he took a small portuguese club to their highest finish. I'd wiki'd it now and it was a team called União de Leiria.

When Porto won it in 2004 no-one expected that they would.

Sorry mate, just reread your post and understand how you meant it now.

No denying Jose's a serious achiever, but I simply don't appreciate his act.

Yeah I can understand that people don't like his antics. The same way I can understand people don't respect Terry for some of the things he's done.

Giggs, Suarez, etc... all these people fall into the category of people who you can argue deserve little respect for some of their antics.

However, at their jobs they are all amongst the very best.

[Kmac84]

I grew up watching a Celtic team that wasn't the most successful in the clubs history.  Over the last 10 years or so we have been pretty successful both on and off the park but I hate the brand of football we play, I want panache, pace, passing etc regardless of who we play.  I long for the days of the Tommy Burns team that played silky football.  Even more so now when Celtic are running away with the league. 

   

[GreekStein]

Just showed how results orientated football supporters are.

Gerrard doesn't slip, the game likely finishes 0-0 or we win. Mourinho fked it and BR has "got one over on him".

He does slip however, and Chelsea nick and goal and Mourinho is a tactical genius.

Last night's game shows how "special" JM really is imo.

this post is quite funny from a Liverpool fan now, after you guys drew against Palace. Don't think that would ever happen from 3-0 up under Mourinho.