SCOOP 2014 - Razz, Stud, etc

[redsimon]

So nice when a plan works.

PokerStars Hand #116131109222: Tournament #894306912, $200+$15 USD Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit - Level VIII (250/500) - 2014/05/13 18:34:28 WET [2014/05/13 13:34:28 ET]
Table '894306912 33' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: raidalot (4215 in chips)
Seat 2: Kolumbus27 (8845 in chips)
Seat 3: sunamivolk (10555 in chips)
Seat 4: MintTrav (7125 in chips)
Seat 5: IGNIetFERR0 (5385 in chips)
Seat 6: dfump (3565 in chips)
raidalot: posts small blind 125
Kolumbus27: posts big blind 250
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to MintTrav [ ]
sunamivolk: folds
MintTrav: calls 250
IGNIetFERR0: raises 250 to 500
dfump: folds
raidalot: folds
Kolumbus27: folds
MintTrav: calls 250
*** FIRST DRAW ***
MintTrav: discards 2 cards [ ]
Dealt to MintTrav [ ] [ ]
IGNIetFERR0: discards 1 card
MintTrav: checks
IGNIetFERR0: bets 250
MintTrav: calls 250
*** SECOND DRAW ***
MintTrav: discards 2 cards [ ]
Dealt to MintTrav [ ] [ ]
IGNIetFERR0: discards 1 card
MintTrav: bets 500
IGNIetFERR0: calls 500
*** THIRD DRAW ***
MintTrav: stands pat on [ ]
IGNIetFERR0: discards 1 card
MintTrav: bets 500
IGNIetFERR0: folds
Uncalled bet (500) returned to MintTrav
MintTrav collected 2875 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2875 | Rake 0
Seat 1: raidalot (small blind) folded before the Draw
Seat 2: Kolumbus27 (big blind) folded before the Draw
Seat 3: sunamivolk folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 4: MintTrav collected (2875)
Seat 5: IGNIetFERR0 folded after the 3rd Draw
Seat 6: dfump (button) folded before the Draw (didn't bet)

Only played a few hands of 2-7 TD, but intend to play some small buy in events in Vegas in June would welcome some advice/thoughts on this hand?

I would've kept one of the and drawn 1 on last draw. Is it better to discard both cards when you get dealt a pair after drawing?

[Ironside]

Lost with 7-high. Cruel game.

PokerStars Hand #116130518617: Tournament #894306912, $200+$15 USD Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit - Level VII (200/400) - 2014/05/13 18:22:43 WET [2014/05/13 13:22:43 ET]
Table '894306912 33' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: raidalot (7390 in chips)
Seat 2: Kolumbus27 (8645 in chips)
Seat 3: sunamivolk (7255 in chips)
Seat 4: MintTrav (6725 in chips)
Seat 5: MACK MAGNUS (4175 in chips)
Seat 6: cyberkanguru (6650 in chips)
cyberkanguru: posts small blind 100
raidalot: posts big blind 200
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to MintTrav [ ]
Kolumbus27: raises 200 to 400
sunamivolk: folds
MintTrav: calls 400
MACK MAGNUS: folds
cyberkanguru: calls 300
raidalot: folds
*** FIRST DRAW ***
cyberkanguru: discards 1 card
Kolumbus27: discards 2 cards
MintTrav: discards 2 cards [ ]
Dealt to MintTrav [ ] [ ]
cyberkanguru: bets 200
Kolumbus27: calls 200
MintTrav: raises 200 to 400
cyberkanguru: calls 200
Kolumbus27: folds
*** SECOND DRAW ***
cyberkanguru: discards 1 card
MintTrav: stands pat on [ ]
cyberkanguru: checks
MintTrav: bets 400
cyberkanguru: calls 400
*** THIRD DRAW ***
cyberkanguru: stands pat
MintTrav: stands pat on [ ]
cyberkanguru: checks
MintTrav: bets 400
cyberkanguru: raises 400 to 800
MintTrav: calls 400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cyberkanguru: shows [ ] (Lo: 7,5,4,3,2)
MintTrav: shows [ ] (Lo: 7,6,4,3,2)
cyberkanguru collected 4800 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4800 | Rake 0
Seat 1: raidalot (big blind) folded before the Draw
Seat 2: Kolumbus27 folded after the 1st Draw
Seat 3: sunamivolk folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 4: MintTrav showed [ ] and lost with Lo: 7,6,4,3,2
Seat 5: MACK MAGNUS (button) folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 6: cyberkanguru (small blind) showed [ ] and won (4800) with Lo: 7,5,4,3,2

how does this not get capped after 3rd draw when you have 2nd nuts

[MintTrav]

Lost with 7-high. Cruel game.

PokerStars Hand #116130518617: Tournament #894306912, $200+$15 USD Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit - Level VII (200/400) - 2014/05/13 18:22:43 WET [2014/05/13 13:22:43 ET]
Table '894306912 33' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: raidalot (7390 in chips)
Seat 2: Kolumbus27 (8645 in chips)
Seat 3: sunamivolk (7255 in chips)
Seat 4: MintTrav (6725 in chips)
Seat 5: MACK MAGNUS (4175 in chips)
Seat 6: cyberkanguru (6650 in chips)
cyberkanguru: posts small blind 100
raidalot: posts big blind 200
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to MintTrav [ ]
Kolumbus27: raises 200 to 400
sunamivolk: folds
MintTrav: calls 400
MACK MAGNUS: folds
cyberkanguru: calls 300
raidalot: folds
*** FIRST DRAW ***
cyberkanguru: discards 1 card
Kolumbus27: discards 2 cards
MintTrav: discards 2 cards [ ]
Dealt to MintTrav [ ] [ ]
cyberkanguru: bets 200
Kolumbus27: calls 200
MintTrav: raises 200 to 400
cyberkanguru: calls 200
Kolumbus27: folds
*** SECOND DRAW ***
cyberkanguru: discards 1 card
MintTrav: stands pat on [ ]
cyberkanguru: checks
MintTrav: bets 400
cyberkanguru: calls 400
*** THIRD DRAW ***
cyberkanguru: stands pat
MintTrav: stands pat on [ ]
cyberkanguru: checks
MintTrav: bets 400
cyberkanguru: raises 400 to 800
MintTrav: calls 400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cyberkanguru: shows [ ] (Lo: 7,5,4,3,2)
MintTrav: shows [ ] (Lo: 7,6,4,3,2)
cyberkanguru collected 4800 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4800 | Rake 0
Seat 1: raidalot (big blind) folded before the Draw
Seat 2: Kolumbus27 folded after the 1st Draw
Seat 3: sunamivolk folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 4: MintTrav showed [ ] and lost with Lo: 7,6,4,3,2
Seat 5: MACK MAGNUS (button) folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 6: cyberkanguru (small blind) showed [ ] and won (4800) with Lo: 7,5,4,3,2

how does this not get capped after 3rd draw when you have 2nd nuts

Yeah, good point. I think I had been outdrawn so many times this week that I was expecting him to have it when he reraised, which he did. But he is more likely to have a worse 7-high than a better one, and you have to maximise your opportunities, so I accept your point.

[MintTrav]

Razz

M: 5.5k L: 4.1k

The beats go on.

[MintTrav]

3rd break.  M: 4.8k.  L: -

Trying not to be dramatic with these posts. Suffice to say it has been difficult. I've played the Razz real TAG style, folding all two-card hands. Only been playing three-card starting hands, and there are a lot fewer of them, but then playing them hard. Still lose to guys calling with a K showing. Lost one where he had Q9 showing and still called, when I had four wheel cards. I think I'm going mad sometimes when I see the junk I'm losing to. I pasted a couple of hands in here, but didn't finish posting them, as it's starting to look like a bad beat thread.

In the end, I played two two-card hands out of desperation and won with them from behind.

[MintTrav]

If you ever come up against a Dutch player called sdijsel and you get a good hand, you can bet it freely, cos he ain't folding anything. One the other hand, don't. Cos you won't win.

[MintTrav]

8-Game

2nd break. M: 3200  L: 7508

[MintTrav]

3rd break M: zip. Shoved 77 in NLHE, straight into 99 and QQ.

L: 16,827.   216/966

[redsimon]

Good luck!

[MintTrav]

8-Game
4th break. M: 23,947.   214/479. 300 paid

PLO Hi-Lo
1st break. M: 4,313  L: 7,001

[MintTrav]

8-Game
4th break. M: 16,869.   228/300. 300 paid
Bizarre situation on the bubble just before the break. With 301 left, it was H4H and we were just waiting. Then my table started, but none of the others I had open did. They were all just sitting there with nothing happening, whereas I was BB in Limit holdem and my Button had been raised. Some other tables must have also started playing, cos someone went out before the break.

The money jumps are miniscule now for ages, so it's times to take some risks and try to grow the stack or bust it.

PLO Hi-Lo
2nd break.
M: 6,961  220/737  126 paid
L: -. Was going better in this than any. On 8k, Called a raise and flopped top set with TTxx on Txx. Against AA. A on Turn. Then had AJxx on AJx Flop against AQ. Turn Q.
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[MintTrav]

8-Game
L: Finished 151st for $71.25. 5% of that will just about buy some sweets. Got up to about 33k, I think, lost a few and then committed in NLHE with  , called by 77. Win the race for a stack of about 50k. Didn't.

[I put M previously - it was the L I was still in]

PLO Hi-Lo
2nd break. M: 2,012. Will have to put it on the line here too soon.

[Ironside]

8-Game
L: Finished 151st for $71.25. 5% of that will just about buy some sweets. Got up to about 33k, I think, lost a few and then committed in NLHE with  , called by 77. Win the race for a stack of about 50k. Didn't.

[I put M previously - it was the L I was still in]

PLO Hi-Lo
2nd break. M: 2,012. Will have to put it on the line here too soon.

gl mint it was your thread that reminded me its was plo8 tonight i am over 30k in the low
didnt have the roll to play the M
dont normally play as high as $27 but too many NLHE players in this

[MintTrav]

HORSE

1st break.  M: 4,088   L: 5,983

Christ. Getting swingy already, especially in the L.

[redsimon]

Dealer: cantwinuknow has Lo: K,Q,J,T,A
Dealer: kema56 has Lo: 7,5,3,2,A
Dealer: Hand #116274983532: kema56 wins pot (19,170) with Lo:7,5,3,2,A


And they say the games arent good!