The Gamblers Moaning Thread

[redarmi]

It will never happen here.  Our racing authorities are not strong enough or interested enough in betting and when they do show interest it tends to be in the layers favour rather than the consumers.  It has become beyond a joke really.  Yesterday I lost two brand new accounts both before a single bet had settled and with only 900 quid bet over 13 bets on the two accounts.  

[redarmi]

The above was about the NSW racing authority....I somehow missed an entire page of comments that took the thread ona  different track.....

[sovietsong]

The above was about the NSW racing authority....I somehow missed an entire page of comments that took the thread ona  different track.....

When I saw the new post I was excited to see your views on the last box. Sadly you failed to deliver.

I'm not going to stake you now.

[Doobs]

Noobs playing the last box on black jack and busting the table

People that don't understand randomness and berate the fella in the last box on a blackjack table "for taking a card the dealer would have got".  Sit in the last box yourself if you think there is something different that fella should do on behalf of the rest of the table, but frankly the whole last box thing makes me tear my hair out and say surely you get randomness.  Take a deck of cards, remove card A and card B.  Card A is just as likely to be a ten as card B ffs. 

After the event surely the randomness is gone? You know exactly which card it would have been! I think people berate the last box as most aren't sharp enough to count through if seat 1 does something non standard, so the last box always gets it tight as it's more noticeable! FWIW I prefer the end box. Cannot claim not to get annoyed when someone hits on 15 when the dealers showing a 6 or something and it kills me! I also easily forget how many times someone's bad play ultra rewards me blackjack is a team game so I kept getting told by texans in Vegas....

There is a 6 card deck in front of you, which card is more likely to be a 10, the top one or the one below?  The answer is they are equally likely right now.  If the player at the end takes a card or not, the answer does not change.  The end player makes no difference at all to this probability.  Hence whatever "bad plays" he makes will make no difference to you in the long run.   Sometimes you will gain, sometimes you will lose because of this.  Focusing on what actually happened in one hand and aftertiming decisions based on that is obviously a terrible trait in a poker player.  Getting irritated by randomness at all is bad too... as is sitting at blackjack tables...

I'm thinking of adding a few to the no to staking list here. 

I never noticed the end comment, when I sent my previous reply, which was basically I can't be bothered debating but having noticed this now, I think I shall.

Now, first and foremost surely to get annoyed by things that annoy others must be by a pretty daft thing?  You have an analytical brain, does everyone have an analytical brain? do these concepts come easy to everyone?  Does that make you a better person than me?  I mean how shitty would the world be if everyone thought the same.  Should I get annoyed on a football pitch by those with less ability than me, because their brain and limbs do not coordinate as well as mine?  (nb likely to be the analytical thinkers...stereotypes FTW) Should an artist get annoyed by those less creative than them?  who do not understand how colours contrast?

Secondly, if it wasn't for us LOL punters, the maths gurus amongst us would have to make there living playing with spreadsheets and not arbing offers designed for people to enjoy horse races.  The industry requires us irrational compulsive types who throw our completely random thought process out there, or it would lose and die along with horse racing, greyhound racing and a lot of other things people take huge enjoyment in.

Thirdly, what right do you have to take ownership of my thoughts and opinions cause you once staked $60 on me, for which I returned 35% ROI?  That end comment is beyond douche, this is a forum, what possible point is there in me posting if I have to worry if every comment is going to mean I can't get a bit of staking when I need it?  By all means think it, but don't say it, just classless and petty.  I put up +ve staking packages on here (bar my LOL live attempts) sometimes offering my micro action at spot when I have a decent ROI over a large sample.  Why do I do that?  I enjoy community sweats and I like the thought of making people money

Fourthly, does every decision need to assume a infinite sample?  If I play blackjack once in a blue moon and crack £200 on the table from a usual stake of £10 and I am sitting on 20, dealer has 6, the end box takes a card on 15, catches a 10, and the dealer goes 10 and then 6?  I mean course I am going to be annoyed?  is that not just human nature nb do I berate said player? No, I am not confrontational like that (this message aside), but yeah I sit there thinking FFS

Fiffthly (not sue how to spell that, I don't think too good clearly) you have a maths thread and a top punting thread, this is a what things annoy you thread, so in my view not the place for rationale thought?  This is a poker forum 50% plus of us are likely LOL punters, let us LOL about if we want to, educate us on the punting threads FFS, if I cannot share my irrational views on a things that annoy me thread then where the fuck can I put them?

Sorry....I literally never get annoyed that much, but I sat stewing for 30 minutes and I don't need to be bummed out on my Sunday

It's not beyond douche, it was only meant as tongue in cheek.  I am not going to stop staking because someone has a roulette habit.  Apologies if it wasn't clear. I kind of hate having to put smileys to convey meanings even if I sometimes succumb. 

We are all irrational at times. 

[TheDazzler]

It will never happen here.  Our racing authorities are not strong enough or interested enough in betting and when they do show interest it tends to be in the layers favour rather than the consumers.  It has become beyond a joke really.  Yesterday I lost two brand new accounts both before a single bet had settled and with only 900 quid bet over 13 bets on the two accounts.  

I've seen you guys say this sort of stuff before. Explain to me what is happening here.
You've placed a number of smallish sized bets over 2 accounts and somehow it raised a flag. How? What is happening?
Were they all sharp bets that went off shorter than the price you took? Was there someway the accounts could be linked to already banned accounts?
If they are all sharp bets, could you not dilute them with a lot more neutral EV bets to disguise the other ones?

[Kmac84]

Random punters in the bookies who are going mental when they have 10bob winner and your getting done for chunks.  I'd like everyone to win but when a dog who 2/38 there is a reason why its 9/1 you prob should avoid backing it.

[Omm]

Grown men wearing multi coloured Loom band bracelets while playing live poker, ok the kids made them, it's cute, but put them in your pocket, they are not cool and certainly are not lucky.

[Omm]

Queue all the men removing said loom bands.

[Marky147]

Queue all the men removing said loom bands.

I'm going to make sure my niece makes me one before I play live again

[edgascoigne]

It will never happen here.  Our racing authorities are not strong enough or interested enough in betting and when they do show interest it tends to be in the layers favour rather than the consumers.  It has become beyond a joke really.  Yesterday I lost two brand new accounts both before a single bet had settled and with only 900 quid bet over 13 bets on the two accounts.  

Are you blocking/amending your IP mate? Worth a look if not as, so the grapevine has it, accounts with some firms are restricted by IP matching.

[sonour]

It will never happen here.  Our racing authorities are not strong enough or interested enough in betting and when they do show interest it tends to be in the layers favour rather than the consumers.  It has become beyond a joke really.  Yesterday I lost two brand new accounts both before a single bet had settled and with only 900 quid bet over 13 bets on the two accounts.  

Are you blocking/amending your IP mate? Worth a look if not as, so the grapevine has it, accounts with some firms are restricted by IP matching.

Not only your IP address but you also need to protect your computer with something like Sandboxie which I can thoroughly recommend.

[Kmac84]

I am moving house pretty soon not very far but I was planning in opening all new accounts at new address as will have new bank account etc should I be careful with this or just avoid doing it? 

What is sandboxie btw?

[RED-DOG]

Grown men wearing multi coloured Loom band bracelets while playing live poker, ok the kids made them, it's cute, but put them in your pocket, they are not cool and certainly are not lucky.

My grand kids make them. They think it's cool if I wear them.

You think it's not cool.

No contest really.   

[Omm]

Grown men wearing multi coloured Loom band bracelets while playing live poker, ok the kids made them, it's cute, but put them in your pocket, they are not cool and certainly are not lucky.

My grand kids make them. They think it's cool if I wear them.

You think it's not cool.

No contest really.

My 7, 5 and 3 year olds make them, they think it's cool.

They also think Adventure Time and Dick and Dom are cool,  I don't.

I think poker is cool, they don't.

See how this works.

[RED-DOG]

Grown men wearing multi coloured Loom band bracelets while playing live poker, ok the kids made them, it's cute, but put them in your pocket, they are not cool and certainly are not lucky.

My grand kids make them. They think it's cool if I wear them.

You think it's not cool.

No contest really.

My 7, 5 and 3 year olds make them, they think it's cool.

They also think Adventure Time and Dick and Dom are cool,  I don't.

I think poker is cool, they don't.

See how this works.

Not really, but I've added a smiley to my previous post just in case.