Celtic - reinstated into the CL

[kinboshi]

Yes, it has happened a number of times when it was discovered after the match. I obviously don't know how many times it's happened and not been noticed (obviously).

My point is that a system to prevent it from happening would cost peanuts to an organisation running a multi-billion pound competition. It's a "no brainer".

The same way that goal-line technology costs peanuts to help the officials ensure the right result happens and perfectly good goals aren't disallowed (or vice versa) affecting the outcome of massive games. 

I'm not against the system that you are proposing, I don't think it is needed but if they introduce it then fine no problem. The point I'm taking issue with is that you are calling UEFA incompetant in this particular case when they are clearly not.

And it hasn't happened on a number of occasions it has happened once before, believe me Celtic fans were all over this and could only come up with one other example.

It would prevent it from happening again.

As it is, they don't have the system and instead there's really no option other than to reinstate Celtic and throw Legia out. A much better solution would have been to have a simple system in place that avoided this whole scenario.

As Ray said, imagine what would have happened had it been Real Madrid who had fielded the ineligible player?

[celtic]

Yes, it has happened a number of times when it was discovered after the match. I obviously don't know how many times it's happened and not been noticed (obviously).

My point is that a system to prevent it from happening would cost peanuts to an organisation running a multi-billion pound competition. It's a "no brainer".

The same way that goal-line technology costs peanuts to help the officials ensure the right result happens and perfectly good goals aren't disallowed (or vice versa) affecting the outcome of massive games. 

I'm not against the system that you are proposing, I don't think it is needed but if they introduce it then fine no problem. The point I'm taking issue with is that you are calling UEFA incompetant in this particular case when they are clearly not.

And it hasn't happened on a number of occasions it has happened once before, believe me Celtic fans were all over this and could only come up with one other example.

It would prevent it from happening again.

As it is, they don't have the system and instead there's really no option other than to reinstate Celtic and throw Legia out. A much better solution would have been to have a simple system in place that avoided this whole scenario.

As Ray said, imagine what would have happened had it been Real Madrid who had fielded the ineligible player?

Then they would have been banned too.

[kinboshi]

Yes, it has happened a number of times when it was discovered after the match. I obviously don't know how many times it's happened and not been noticed (obviously).

My point is that a system to prevent it from happening would cost peanuts to an organisation running a multi-billion pound competition. It's a "no brainer".

The same way that goal-line technology costs peanuts to help the officials ensure the right result happens and perfectly good goals aren't disallowed (or vice versa) affecting the outcome of massive games. 

I'm not against the system that you are proposing, I don't think it is needed but if they introduce it then fine no problem. The point I'm taking issue with is that you are calling UEFA incompetant in this particular case when they are clearly not.

And it hasn't happened on a number of occasions it has happened once before, believe me Celtic fans were all over this and could only come up with one other example.

It would prevent it from happening again.

As it is, they don't have the system and instead there's really no option other than to reinstate Celtic and throw Legia out. A much better solution would have been to have a simple system in place that avoided this whole scenario.

As Ray said, imagine what would have happened had it been Real Madrid who had fielded the ineligible player?

Then they would have been banned too.

Possibly. I'm sure UEFA would prefer that didn't happen though.

[kinboshi]

The other thing is would Legia have been thrown out if the player hadn't come on for the last three minutes? Him playing the last three minutes should be immaterial, as him being listed on the team sheet was the offence.

Wonder what would have happened then? If Legia weren't thrown out in that scenario, Celtic would have had every reason to complain.

[Ironside]

So UEFA are incompetant because they don't have a process in place to stop something that has pretty much never happened before in literally 1000s of their games. If this was some complicated process that was being repeatedly breached then fair enough but it simply hasn't been an issue.

So UEFA are incompetant because they don't have a process in place to stop something that has pretty much never happened before in literally 1000s of their games. If this was some complicated process that was being repeatedly breached then fair enough but it simply hasn't been an issue.

its happens a few times a seasons in domestic football and happened atleast 3 times now in uefa compertition including 2x involving celtic

now stop being a freaking idiot and listen with your ears and take in with your brain for once and not your green specs


there has now been 3 cases in uefa comps that a situation has occurred where having the 4 official run the team sheet through the computer before he start of play would of solved a problem with players playing that shouldn't have that have ended up with uefa having to make a ruling off the pitch

now stop trying to make me me look the fool and trying to admit your wrong

[Kmac84]

Clutching at straws now.  

[Kmac84]

now stop trying to make me me look the fool and trying to admit your wrong

You are doing a great job of that all by yourself. 

[Ironside]

lets clear another thing up as I said with celtic on fb the other night before celtic got back in but it was known that warsaw was facing uefa

I am quite happy celtic are back in

it will help boost the Scottish co-efficient and also keep the celtic team occupied and they wont race away with league so early

I just agree with kinboshi that these things happening are stupid  and in this day an age shouldn't happen in any game in any league all the way
down to the bottom of the football pyramid

[Ironside]

now stop trying to make me me look the fool and trying to admit your wrong

You are doing a great job of that all by yourself. 

your just another green specs wearer

I have pointed out 3 examples of games where a 4th official running the details through a computer would of stopped a mess happening you guys just aint listening and trying to twist it

[Kmac84]

lets clear another thing up as I said with celtic on fb the other night before celtic got back in but it was known that warsaw was facing uefa

I am quite happy celtic are back in

it will help boost the Scottish co-efficient and also keep the celtic team occupied and they wont race away with league so early

I just agree with kinboshi that these things happening are stupid  and in this day an age shouldn't happen in any game in any league all the way
down to the bottom of the football pyramid

Scottish co-efficient is gubbed due to performances in Europe by the likes of Motherwell and Aberdeen.  St Johnstone to an extent.  

Celtic can't rescue it alone and frankly we're not good enough to do so, we could be if the neo-liberals in charge weren't so concerned about the balance sheets showing profit every year.   But it seems finance comes before performance in the eyes of Lawell.  

We can all agree these mistakes should not happen, but it's not upto UEFA to police the team sheets/squads beforehand they dish out a punishment it's upto the teams to adhere to that.   The instances are few and far between, there are far more pressing things UEFA/FIFA could be doing to make the game better for everyone concerned.  

[Kmac84]

now stop trying to make me me look the fool and trying to admit your wrong

You are doing a great job of that all by yourself. 

your just another green specs wearer

I have pointed out 3 examples of games where a 4th official running the details through a computer would of stopped a mess happening you guys just aint listening and trying to twist it

Eh we're not the examples you have used are not comparable. 

[Boba Fett]

I think uefa owe it to the paying public to ensure teams arent making these mistakes before the game goes ahead.  This game was a farce because no matter what the result was, it wouldnt stand.  People are paying good money to watch this, travelling abroad to go to the game etc and the game is nothing more than a training game.

Some teams cant afford to hire experienced administrators and some teams dont qualify for europe every year so may not be aware of proper procedures for  dealing with things in the european game, but I dont think the fans should be punished by having to fork out their hard earned money to watch a game that couldve been legitimized by a Uefa official taking 5 minutes to check on the eligibility of all players before the game started.

[Ironside]

lets clear another thing up as I said with celtic on fb the other night before celtic got back in but it was known that warsaw was facing uefa

I am quite happy celtic are back in

it will help boost the Scottish co-efficient and also keep the celtic team occupied and they wont race away with league so early

I just agree with kinboshi that these things happening are stupid  and in this day an age shouldn't happen in any game in any league all the way
down to the bottom of the football pyramid

Scottish co-efficient is gubbed due to performances in Europe by the likes of Motherwell and Aberdeen.  St Johnstone to an extent. 

Celtic can't rescue it alone and frankly we're not good enough to do so, we could be if the neo-liberals in charge weren't so concerned about the balance sheets showing profit every year.   But it seems finance comes before performance in the eyes of Lawell. 

We can all agree these mistakes should not happen, but it's not upto UEFA to police the team sheets/squads beforehand they dish out a punishment it's upto the teams to adhere to that.   The instances are few and far between, there are far more pressing things UEFA/FIFA could be doing to make the game better for everyone concerned. 

Aberdeen won 3 drew 1 lost 2 the lost 2 against a team team who pay some of there players nearly as much as whole of the Aberdeen team
in losing both game the performance and effort put in by the Aberdeen players on there first run out in Europe for years
put to shame the woeful performance by celtic players the night before

[Ironside]

now stop trying to make me me look the fool and trying to admit your wrong

You are doing a great job of that all by yourself. 

your just another green specs wearer

I have pointed out 3 examples of games where a 4th official running the details through a computer would of stopped a mess happening you guys just aint listening and trying to twist it

Eh we're not the examples you have used are not comparable. 

yes they are all examples of uefa messing up the games by not checking the teams sheets
and making sure only eligible players were listed before the game started

I think uefa owe it to the paying public to ensure teams arent making these mistakes before the game goes ahead.  This game was a farce because no matter what the result was, it wouldnt stand.  People are paying good money to watch this, travelling abroad to go to the game etc and the game is nothing more than a training game.

Some teams cant afford to hire experienced administrators and some teams dont qualify for europe every year so may not be aware of proper procedures for  dealing with things in the european game, but I dont think the fans should be punished by having to fork out their hard earned money to watch a game that couldve been legitimized by a Uefa official taking 5 minutes to check on the eligibility of all players before the game started.

[kinboshi]

I think uefa owe it to the paying public to ensure teams arent making these mistakes before the game goes ahead.  This game was a farce because no matter what the result was, it wouldnt stand.  People are paying good money to watch this, travelling abroad to go to the game etc and the game is nothing more than a training game.

Some teams cant afford to hire experienced administrators and some teams dont qualify for europe every year so may not be aware of proper procedures for  dealing with things in the european game, but I dont think the fans should be punished by having to fork out their hard earned money to watch a game that couldve been legitimized by a Uefa official taking 5 minutes to check on the eligibility of all players before the game started.

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