Fantasy Premier league 2014/15 Official Thread

[TheDazzler]

Europa League semi finals results played GW36 (£10 League)


1.  Jack Allen   (78)  vs   Greg Hill    (66)------------------------------------Jack Allen  

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2.  Curtis Ledger   (67)  vs     Nicholas Wright    (96)-------------------Nicholas Wright  

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Europa League Final to be played GW38 (£10 League)

Jack Allen    vs    Nicholas Wright

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GW35 - Champions League Final to be played GW37(£50 league)


Killer River    vs    TheDazzler

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In the event of a tie in the Champions League Final, we'll have a replay in GW38.
In the event of a tie in the Europa League Final, we'll have to have a virtual coin toss (to be administered by MereNovice) as we have run out of gameweeks to have the replay
Best of luck all involved

[TheDazzler]

Big gamble didnt pay off. Gfy Aguero and Benteke

Made the same play, knew it was doomed when I saw that you'd done it too

Degens gonna degen.

[Junior Senior]

Just need Rosicky and Maitland Niles to do the business this week and I am home and hosed.

[Killer River]

Europa League semi finals results played GW36 (£10 League)


1.  Jack Allen   (78)  vs   Greg Hill    (66)------------------------------------Jack Allen  

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2.  Curtis Ledger   (67)  vs     Nicholas Wright    (96)-------------------Nicholas Wright  

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Europa League Final to be played GW38 (£10 League)

Jack Allen    vs    Nicholas Wright

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GW35 - Champions League Final to be played GW37(£50 league)


Killer River    vs    TheDazzler

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In the event of a tie in the Champions League Final, we'll have a replay in GW38.
In the event of a tie in the Europa League Final, we'll have to have a virtual coin toss (to be administered by MereNovice) as we have run out of gameweeks to have the replay
Best of luck all involved

Gl in the final tom it should be a close one

[TheDazzler]

Europa League semi finals results played GW36 (£10 League)


1.  Jack Allen   (78)  vs   Greg Hill    (66)------------------------------------Jack Allen  

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2.  Curtis Ledger   (67)  vs     Nicholas Wright    (96)-------------------Nicholas Wright  

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Europa League Final to be played GW38 (£10 League)

Jack Allen    vs    Nicholas Wright

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GW35 - Champions League Final to be played GW37(£50 league)


Killer River    vs    TheDazzler

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In the event of a tie in the Champions League Final, we'll have a replay in GW38.
In the event of a tie in the Europa League Final, we'll have to have a virtual coin toss (to be administered by MereNovice) as we have run out of gameweeks to have the replay
Best of luck all involved

Gl in the final tom it should be a close one

You too, Marc

[TheDazzler]

Gl in the final tom it should be a close one

You too, Marc

Very, very, very close!
We've nearly an identical team. It comes down to Bellerin vs Koscielny. Fair chance we're going to a replay, mate

[Karabiner]

No bonus points for any Arsenal players after the 1-1 draw at OT.

How come?

[TheDazzler]

No bonus points for any Arsenal players after the 1-1 draw at OT.

How come?

A couple of years ago, they changed it from analysts awarding man of the match awards to a pure stats based approach.
In a 1-1 draw, the goalscorers are going to get the points, therefore Herrara gets the 3. The Arsenal goal was an own goal so no big bonuses there. The assisters get secondary bonuses so Young gets 1 point. Walcott wasn't on the pitch long enough to get the other passing stats up so his assist isn't enough. The reason De Gea + Rojo got 1 and 2 points respectively is that they were the only players that kept 'clean sheets'. They were substituted before the Arsenal equaliser.
I've no problem with them using a stats based approach but it needs significant tweaking.
For instance, you would lose BPS for having a terrific shot that goes just wide as its a 'shot off target'. And you would get plus BPS for wasting a really easy chance so long as it was a 'shot on target'.
If you get a yellow card, you lose a lot of BPS. Sometimes, 'taking a yellow' is a terrific thing for your team, it's actually good play as it stops a major chance for your opponents. You already lose 1 point for it, why should you be further punished?
There are plenty of other examples too.

[BorntoBubble]

No bonus points for any Arsenal players after the 1-1 draw at OT.

How come?

A couple of years ago, they changed it from analysts awarding man of the match awards to a pure stats based approach.
In a 1-1 draw, the goalscorers are going to get the points, therefore Herrara gets the 3. The Arsenal goal was an own goal so no big bonuses there. The assisters get secondary bonuses so Young gets 1 point. Walcott wasn't on the pitch long enough to get the other passing stats up so his assist isn't enough. The reason De Gea + Rojo got 1 and 2 points respectively is that they were the only players that kept 'clean sheets'. They were substituted before the Arsenal equaliser.
I've no problem with them using a stats based approach but it needs significant tweaking.
For instance, you would lose BPS for having a terrific shot that goes just wide as its a 'shot off target'. And you would get plus BPS for wasting a really easy chance so long as it was a 'shot on target'.
If you get a yellow card, you lose a lot of BPS. Sometimes, 'taking a yellow' is a terrific thing for your team, it's actually good play as it stops a major chance for your opponents. You already lose 1 point for it, why should you be further punished?
There are plenty of other examples too.

I am guessing the stats based approach is to speed up and automate the system?

It seems with a product this big they could have a panel of say 5 judges to look at the game and award bonus points.

[TheDazzler]

No bonus points for any Arsenal players after the 1-1 draw at OT.

How come?

A couple of years ago, they changed it from analysts awarding man of the match awards to a pure stats based approach.
In a 1-1 draw, the goalscorers are going to get the points, therefore Herrara gets the 3. The Arsenal goal was an own goal so no big bonuses there. The assisters get secondary bonuses so Young gets 1 point. Walcott wasn't on the pitch long enough to get the other passing stats up so his assist isn't enough. The reason De Gea + Rojo got 1 and 2 points respectively is that they were the only players that kept 'clean sheets'. They were substituted before the Arsenal equaliser.
I've no problem with them using a stats based approach but it needs significant tweaking.
For instance, you would lose BPS for having a terrific shot that goes just wide as its a 'shot off target'. And you would get plus BPS for wasting a really easy chance so long as it was a 'shot on target'.
If you get a yellow card, you lose a lot of BPS. Sometimes, 'taking a yellow' is a terrific thing for your team, it's actually good play as it stops a major chance for your opponents. You already lose 1 point for it, why should you be further punished?
There are plenty of other examples too.

I am guessing the stats based approach is to speed up and automate the system?

It seems with a product this big they could have a panel of say 5 judges to look at the game and award bonus points.

It's because they had so many complaints about, "how does Player X get man of the match there?". They did have a panel of ex players at every game that awarded the bonus's. Obviously there were some anomolies but in general, the players that played the best got the points.
They went with an unbiased stats based system to avoid alll the complaints. Of course, it now doesn't pick the best players in a match, it picks the best players under the stats based system. That could be fine, if it wasn't so clunky. "shots off target = bad" and "shots on target = good".
At least it's fair, in that you can measure everything but it doesn't measure what it should be measuring.
Oh don't mind me, it's one of my pet bugbears!

[Karabiner]

I just thought it seemed very unfair that Ramsey got none.

Absolutely nothing to do with him being my captain this week...

[dino1980]

Gl in the final tom it should be a close one

You too, Marc

Very, very, very close!
We've nearly an identical team. It comes down to Bellerin vs Koscielny. Fair chance we're going to a replay, mate

Could come down to something as small as a -1 for a yellow card. Good luck both.

[dino1980]

No bonus points for any Arsenal players after the 1-1 draw at OT.

How come?

A couple of years ago, they changed it from analysts awarding man of the match awards to a pure stats based approach.
In a 1-1 draw, the goalscorers are going to get the points, therefore Herrara gets the 3. The Arsenal goal was an own goal so no big bonuses there. The assisters get secondary bonuses so Young gets 1 point. Walcott wasn't on the pitch long enough to get the other passing stats up so his assist isn't enough. The reason De Gea + Rojo got 1 and 2 points respectively is that they were the only players that kept 'clean sheets'. They were substituted before the Arsenal equaliser.
I've no problem with them using a stats based approach but it needs significant tweaking.
For instance, you would lose BPS for having a terrific shot that goes just wide as its a 'shot off target'. And you would get plus BPS for wasting a really easy chance so long as it was a 'shot on target'.
If you get a yellow card, you lose a lot of BPS. Sometimes, 'taking a yellow' is a terrific thing for your team, it's actually good play as it stops a major chance for your opponents. You already lose 1 point for it, why should you be further punished?
There are plenty of other examples too.

I am guessing the stats based approach is to speed up and automate the system?

It seems with a product this big they could have a panel of say 5 judges to look at the game and award bonus points.

It's because they had so many complaints about, "how does Player X get man of the match there?". They did have a panel of ex players at every game that awarded the bonus's. Obviously there were some anomolies but in general, the players that played the best got the points.
They went with an unbiased stats based system to avoid alll the complaints. Of course, it now doesn't pick the best players in a match, it picks the best players under the stats based system. That could be fine, if it wasn't so clunky. "shots off target = bad" and "shots on target = good".
At least it's fair, in that you can measure everything but it doesn't measure what it should be measuring.
Oh don't mind me, it's one of my pet bugbears!

Tom, have you (or anyone else) played Ultimate FPL this season? It does away with bonus points altogether and instead rewards the usual stuff plus the  key indicators that go towards bonus points - interceptions, blocks, big chances created etc which are simply worth points rather than bonus points. . This has the knock on effect of making players who in FPL are deadwood viable picks. To use one example Matic has 86 points in FPL but 116 points in UFPL whilst Hazard has 226 in FPL & 235 in UFPL.

[TheDazzler]

No bonus points for any Arsenal players after the 1-1 draw at OT.

How come?

A couple of years ago, they changed it from analysts awarding man of the match awards to a pure stats based approach.
In a 1-1 draw, the goalscorers are going to get the points, therefore Herrara gets the 3. The Arsenal goal was an own goal so no big bonuses there. The assisters get secondary bonuses so Young gets 1 point. Walcott wasn't on the pitch long enough to get the other passing stats up so his assist isn't enough. The reason De Gea + Rojo got 1 and 2 points respectively is that they were the only players that kept 'clean sheets'. They were substituted before the Arsenal equaliser.
I've no problem with them using a stats based approach but it needs significant tweaking.
For instance, you would lose BPS for having a terrific shot that goes just wide as its a 'shot off target'. And you would get plus BPS for wasting a really easy chance so long as it was a 'shot on target'.
If you get a yellow card, you lose a lot of BPS. Sometimes, 'taking a yellow' is a terrific thing for your team, it's actually good play as it stops a major chance for your opponents. You already lose 1 point for it, why should you be further punished?
There are plenty of other examples too.

I am guessing the stats based approach is to speed up and automate the system?

It seems with a product this big they could have a panel of say 5 judges to look at the game and award bonus points.

It's because they had so many complaints about, "how does Player X get man of the match there?". They did have a panel of ex players at every game that awarded the bonus's. Obviously there were some anomolies but in general, the players that played the best got the points.
They went with an unbiased stats based system to avoid alll the complaints. Of course, it now doesn't pick the best players in a match, it picks the best players under the stats based system. That could be fine, if it wasn't so clunky. "shots off target = bad" and "shots on target = good".
At least it's fair, in that you can measure everything but it doesn't measure what it should be measuring.
Oh don't mind me, it's one of my pet bugbears!

Tom, have you (or anyone else) played Ultimate FPL this season? It does away with bonus points altogether and instead rewards the usual stuff plus the  key indicators that go towards bonus points - interceptions, blocks, big chances created etc which are simply worth points rather than bonus points. . This has the knock on effect of making players who in FPL are deadwood viable picks. To use one example Matic has 86 points in FPL but 116 points in UFPL whilst Hazard has 226 in FPL & 235 in UFPL.

I haven't played UFPL Nicholas. I never really considered it tbh. I have been thinking I should get into the daily fantasy football but I was just concentrating on doing as well as I as could in this FPL season. I might look into both next season.

Really unlucky Marc in the Champs League final where I pipped you by a point. Bellerin and Koscielny both had 36 BPS at fulltime. There is always a recount after the final whistle and Koscielny won that 35-34. Very, very unlucky mate.

[Killer River]

No bonus points for any Arsenal players after the 1-1 draw at OT.

How come?

A couple of years ago, they changed it from analysts awarding man of the match awards to a pure stats based approach.
In a 1-1 draw, the goalscorers are going to get the points, therefore Herrara gets the 3. The Arsenal goal was an own goal so no big bonuses there. The assisters get secondary bonuses so Young gets 1 point. Walcott wasn't on the pitch long enough to get the other passing stats up so his assist isn't enough. The reason De Gea + Rojo got 1 and 2 points respectively is that they were the only players that kept 'clean sheets'. They were substituted before the Arsenal equaliser.
I've no problem with them using a stats based approach but it needs significant tweaking.
For instance, you would lose BPS for having a terrific shot that goes just wide as its a 'shot off target'. And you would get plus BPS for wasting a really easy chance so long as it was a 'shot on target'.
If you get a yellow card, you lose a lot of BPS. Sometimes, 'taking a yellow' is a terrific thing for your team, it's actually good play as it stops a major chance for your opponents. You already lose 1 point for it, why should you be further punished?
There are plenty of other examples too.

I am guessing the stats based approach is to speed up and automate the system?

It seems with a product this big they could have a panel of say 5 judges to look at the game and award bonus points.

It's because they had so many complaints about, "how does Player X get man of the match there?". They did have a panel of ex players at every game that awarded the bonus's. Obviously there were some anomolies but in general, the players that played the best got the points.
They went with an unbiased stats based system to avoid alll the complaints. Of course, it now doesn't pick the best players in a match, it picks the best players under the stats based system. That could be fine, if it wasn't so clunky. "shots off target = bad" and "shots on target = good".
At least it's fair, in that you can measure everything but it doesn't measure what it should be measuring.
Oh don't mind me, it's one of my pet bugbears!

Tom, have you (or anyone else) played Ultimate FPL this season? It does away with bonus points altogether and instead rewards the usual stuff plus the  key indicators that go towards bonus points - interceptions, blocks, big chances created etc which are simply worth points rather than bonus points. . This has the knock on effect of making players who in FPL are deadwood viable picks. To use one example Matic has 86 points in FPL but 116 points in UFPL whilst Hazard has 226 in FPL & 235 in UFPL.

I haven't played UFPL Nicholas. I never really considered it tbh. I have been thinking I should get into the daily fantasy football but I was just concentrating on doing as well as I as could in this FPL season. I might look into both next season.

Really unlucky Marc in the Champs League final where I pipped you by a point. Bellerin and Koscielny both had 36 BPS at fulltime. There is always a recount after the final whistle and Koscielny won that 35-34. Very, very unlucky mate.

Congrats on the win tom i don't think you can get much closer than that mate wp. It looked like it would come down to a yellow card or bonus points.

I just want to say what a great competition this has been very well organised and i have enjoyed it very much, even tho i loafed every final 

Gl to all with something to play for in the last week.