Ched Evans

[George2Loose]

You can try and teach them what you want.

Youth is wasted on the young

[arbboy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1250360/My-nights-wannabe-WAGs-ashamed-sex.html

Very worryingly how many presumably younger girls are asking on google questions "Were do i find footballers on a night out?" and "How do i increase my chances of being a WAG?"

Not that i am stating in this case this was the thought process just think it is very wrong to think it does not happen

that article is five years old as well it certainly hasn't got any better since then.  

Anyway, just because a woman is desperate to get hold of a celeb boyfriend, does that give the celeb free license to treat her like absolute shit?

Just ordered this book http://www.amazon.co.uk/Night-Games-Sex-Power-Sport/dp/1863956018

Suggests sportsmen treating women like pieces of meat isn't purely a British phenomenom.

Course it isn't a uk or modern phenomenon. Certain sections of society have operated like this since time began. Men use power and money to get sex and women use sex to get money and power within these circles. Nothing will ever change with these types.  Obviously the vast majority of human beings have no interest operating in these circles.

Well, why can't this case be a turning point?

Most men don't treat women this way, why do we tolerate the few that do?

Even if Evans isn't a rapist (I think he is but I suppose we can wait for the last appeal for absolute confirmation) he is certainly guilty of being a vile human being. Leaving a drunk girl alone in a hotel room, naked, with no phone, money or possessions is descipable behaviour.

Don't just teach young footballers how to hit an inswinging corner or deal with a long ball.

Teach them about relationships and sex and how to treat women.

It's amazing it doesn't happen already, they are plucked from their schools at a ridiclously young age and don't get to learn the life skills most kids learn.

I totally agree with you but human nature means it will always happen. Rich good looking young men want to fuck anything that moves and the girls are happy to play the game.

The recent Phil Neville article about how he can't make a cup of coffee sums up how deluded and out of touch with society the vast majority of footballers are.  The bubble they live in is really frightening.

[The Camel]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1250360/My-nights-wannabe-WAGs-ashamed-sex.html

Very worryingly how many presumably younger girls are asking on google questions "Were do i find footballers on a night out?" and "How do i increase my chances of being a WAG?"

Not that i am stating in this case this was the thought process just think it is very wrong to think it does not happen

that article is five years old as well it certainly hasn't got any better since then.  

Anyway, just because a woman is desperate to get hold of a celeb boyfriend, does that give the celeb free license to treat her like absolute shit?

Just ordered this book http://www.amazon.co.uk/Night-Games-Sex-Power-Sport/dp/1863956018

Suggests sportsmen treating women like pieces of meat isn't purely a British phenomenom.

Course it isn't a uk or modern phenomenon. Certain sections of society have operated like this since time began. Men use power and money to get sex and women use sex to get money and power within these circles. Nothing will ever change with these types.  Obviously the vast majority of human beings have no interest operating in these circles.

Well, why can't this case be a turning point?

Most men don't treat women this way, why do we tolerate the few that do?

Even if Evans isn't a rapist (I think he is but I suppose we can wait for the last appeal for absolute confirmation) he is certainly guilty of being a vile human being. Leaving a drunk girl alone in a hotel room, naked, with no phone, money or possessions is descipable behaviour.

Don't just teach young footballers how to hit an inswinging corner or deal with a long ball.

Teach them about relationships and sex and how to treat women.

It's amazing it doesn't happen already, they are plucked from their schools at a ridiclously young age and don't get to learn the life skills most kids learn.

I totally agree with you but human nature means it will always happen. Rich good looking young men want to fuck anything that moves and the girls are happy to play the game.

The recent Phil Neville article about how he can't make a cup of coffee sums up how deluded and out of touch with society the vast majority of footballers are.  The bubble they live in is really frightening.

That's why I think this has been a very important opportunity missed. Things in general will pretty much go on as they did before unfortunately.

Whatever happens now to Ched Evans is pretty unimportant, he's a scumbag and whether he plays football again or not will probably always be a scumbag.

[arbboy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1250360/My-nights-wannabe-WAGs-ashamed-sex.html

Very worryingly how many presumably younger girls are asking on google questions "Were do i find footballers on a night out?" and "How do i increase my chances of being a WAG?"

Not that i am stating in this case this was the thought process just think it is very wrong to think it does not happen

that article is five years old as well it certainly hasn't got any better since then.  

Anyway, just because a woman is desperate to get hold of a celeb boyfriend, does that give the celeb free license to treat her like absolute shit?

Just ordered this book http://www.amazon.co.uk/Night-Games-Sex-Power-Sport/dp/1863956018

Suggests sportsmen treating women like pieces of meat isn't purely a British phenomenom.

Course it isn't a uk or modern phenomenon. Certain sections of society have operated like this since time began. Men use power and money to get sex and women use sex to get money and power within these circles. Nothing will ever change with these types.  Obviously the vast majority of human beings have no interest operating in these circles.

Well, why can't this case be a turning point?

Most men don't treat women this way, why do we tolerate the few that do?

Even if Evans isn't a rapist (I think he is but I suppose we can wait for the last appeal for absolute confirmation) he is certainly guilty of being a vile human being. Leaving a drunk girl alone in a hotel room, naked, with no phone, money or possessions is descipable behaviour.

Don't just teach young footballers how to hit an inswinging corner or deal with a long ball.

Teach them about relationships and sex and how to treat women.

It's amazing it doesn't happen already, they are plucked from their schools at a ridiclously young age and don't get to learn the life skills most kids learn.

I totally agree with you but human nature means it will always happen. Rich good looking young men want to fuck anything that moves and the girls are happy to play the game.

The recent Phil Neville article about how he can't make a cup of coffee sums up how deluded and out of touch with society the vast majority of footballers are.  The bubble they live in is really frightening.

That's why I think this has been a very important opportunity missed. Things in general will pretty much go on as they did before unfortunately.

Whatever happens now to Ched Evans is pretty unimportant, he's a scumbag and whether he plays football again or not will probably always be a scumbag.

I agree with a lot of stuff you say but there are at least 100 footballers who will play tomorrow in England who have done nothing different to ched IMO (some will have done a lot worse and got away with it) does that still make them heroes and roles models?  Ched was the one who got 'caught' so to speak. I really don't want to be controversial but I like to think I am a realist.

[kinboshi]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1250360/My-nights-wannabe-WAGs-ashamed-sex.html

Very worryingly how many presumably younger girls are asking on google questions "Were do i find footballers on a night out?" and "How do i increase my chances of being a WAG?"

Not that i am stating in this case this was the thought process just think it is very wrong to think it does not happen

that article is five years old as well it certainly hasn't got any better since then. 

Anyway, just because a woman is desperate to get hold of a celeb boyfriend, does that give the celeb free license to treat her like absolute shit?

Just ordered this book http://www.amazon.co.uk/Night-Games-Sex-Power-Sport/dp/1863956018

Suggests sportsmen treating women like pieces of meat isn't purely a British phenomenom.

Course it isn't a uk or modern phenomenon. Certain sections of society have operated like this since time began. Men use power and money to get sex and women use sex to get money and power within these circles. Nothing will ever change with these types.  Obviously the vast majority of human beings have no interest operating in these circles.

Well, why can't this case be a turning point?

Most men don't treat women this way, why do we tolerate the few that do?

Even if Evans isn't a rapist (I think he is but I suppose we can wait for the last appeal for absolute confirmation) he is certainly guilty of being a vile human being. Leaving a drunk girl alone in a hotel room, naked, with no phone, money or possessions is descipable behaviour.

Don't just teach young footballers how to hit an inswinging corner or deal with a long ball.

Teach them about relationships and sex and how to treat women.

It's amazing it doesn't happen already, they are plucked from their schools at a ridiclously young age and don't get to learn the life skills most kids learn.

I totally agree with you but human nature means it will always happen. Rich good looking young men want to fuck anything that moves and the girls are happy to play the game.

The recent Phil Neville article about how he can't make a cup of coffee sums up how deluded and out of touch with society the vast majority of footballers are.  The bubble they live in is really frightening.

They're happy to play the game if they consent. She didn't. She didn't invite Evans to that room, she didn't go there to have sex with him.

If a bloke wants to "fuck anything that moves", that's fine if it's between two consenting adults. It's a very different thing to be a man or a woman who "puts it around" to one who thinks they have a right to fuck someone who hasn't consented.

[arbboy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1250360/My-nights-wannabe-WAGs-ashamed-sex.html

Very worryingly how many presumably younger girls are asking on google questions "Were do i find footballers on a night out?" and "How do i increase my chances of being a WAG?"

Not that i am stating in this case this was the thought process just think it is very wrong to think it does not happen

that article is five years old as well it certainly hasn't got any better since then.  

Anyway, just because a woman is desperate to get hold of a celeb boyfriend, does that give the celeb free license to treat her like absolute shit?

Just ordered this book http://www.amazon.co.uk/Night-Games-Sex-Power-Sport/dp/1863956018

Suggests sportsmen treating women like pieces of meat isn't purely a British phenomenom.

Course it isn't a uk or modern phenomenon. Certain sections of society have operated like this since time began. Men use power and money to get sex and women use sex to get money and power within these circles. Nothing will ever change with these types.  Obviously the vast majority of human beings have no interest operating in these circles.

Well, why can't this case be a turning point?

Most men don't treat women this way, why do we tolerate the few that do?

Even if Evans isn't a rapist (I think he is but I suppose we can wait for the last appeal for absolute confirmation) he is certainly guilty of being a vile human being. Leaving a drunk girl alone in a hotel room, naked, with no phone, money or possessions is descipable behaviour.

Don't just teach young footballers how to hit an inswinging corner or deal with a long ball.

Teach them about relationships and sex and how to treat women.

It's amazing it doesn't happen already, they are plucked from their schools at a ridiclously young age and don't get to learn the life skills most kids learn.

I totally agree with you but human nature means it will always happen. Rich good looking young men want to fuck anything that moves and the girls are happy to play the game.

The recent Phil Neville article about how he can't make a cup of coffee sums up how deluded and out of touch with society the vast majority of footballers are.  The bubble they live in is really frightening.

They're happy to play the game if they consent. She didn't. She didn't invite Evans to that room, she didn't go there to have sex with him.

If a bloke wants to "fuck anything that moves", that's fine if it's between two consenting adults. It's a very different thing to be a man or a woman who "puts it around" to one who thinks they have a right to fuck someone who hasn't consented.

I agree she went there pissed up to a premier inn in Wales after a chance meeting in a kebab shop with a footballer she was in love with Lola. She ordered a pizza pissed up and got laid then his mate turned up who was a lot better looking than the original stud and she said no? Really? I don't know but I think ched has been ironed out here and his father in laws support would suggest the same. Literally hundreds of lol role models do what ched did every Saturday after games. Maybe they should use escort agencies for their quick thrills. Seems like a much better option risk wise.

[kinboshi]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1250360/My-nights-wannabe-WAGs-ashamed-sex.html

Very worryingly how many presumably younger girls are asking on google questions "Were do i find footballers on a night out?" and "How do i increase my chances of being a WAG?"

Not that i am stating in this case this was the thought process just think it is very wrong to think it does not happen

that article is five years old as well it certainly hasn't got any better since then. 

Anyway, just because a woman is desperate to get hold of a celeb boyfriend, does that give the celeb free license to treat her like absolute shit?

Just ordered this book http://www.amazon.co.uk/Night-Games-Sex-Power-Sport/dp/1863956018

Suggests sportsmen treating women like pieces of meat isn't purely a British phenomenom.

Course it isn't a uk or modern phenomenon. Certain sections of society have operated like this since time began. Men use power and money to get sex and women use sex to get money and power within these circles. Nothing will ever change with these types.  Obviously the vast majority of human beings have no interest operating in these circles.

Well, why can't this case be a turning point?

Most men don't treat women this way, why do we tolerate the few that do?

Even if Evans isn't a rapist (I think he is but I suppose we can wait for the last appeal for absolute confirmation) he is certainly guilty of being a vile human being. Leaving a drunk girl alone in a hotel room, naked, with no phone, money or possessions is descipable behaviour.

Don't just teach young footballers how to hit an inswinging corner or deal with a long ball.

Teach them about relationships and sex and how to treat women.

It's amazing it doesn't happen already, they are plucked from their schools at a ridiclously young age and don't get to learn the life skills most kids learn.

I totally agree with you but human nature means it will always happen. Rich good looking young men want to fuck anything that moves and the girls are happy to play the game.

The recent Phil Neville article about how he can't make a cup of coffee sums up how deluded and out of touch with society the vast majority of footballers are.  The bubble they live in is really frightening.

They're happy to play the game if they consent. She didn't. She didn't invite Evans to that room, she didn't go there to have sex with him.

If a bloke wants to "fuck anything that moves", that's fine if it's between two consenting adults. It's a very different thing to be a man or a woman who "puts it around" to one who thinks they have a right to fuck someone who hasn't consented.

I agree she went there pissed up to a premier inn in Wales after a chance meeting in a kebab shop with a footballer she was in love with Lola. She ordered a pizza pissed up and got laid then his mate turned up who was a lot better looking than the original stud and she said no? Really? I don't know but I think ched has been ironed out here and his father in laws support would suggest the same. Literally hundreds of lol role models do what ched did every Saturday after games. Maybe they should use escort agencies for their quick thrills. Seems like a much better option risk wise.

You honestly think hundreds of "role models" rape women every week? And you think it's OK?

[arbboy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1250360/My-nights-wannabe-WAGs-ashamed-sex.html

Very worryingly how many presumably younger girls are asking on google questions "Were do i find footballers on a night out?" and "How do i increase my chances of being a WAG?"

Not that i am stating in this case this was the thought process just think it is very wrong to think it does not happen

that article is five years old as well it certainly hasn't got any better since then.  

Anyway, just because a woman is desperate to get hold of a celeb boyfriend, does that give the celeb free license to treat her like absolute shit?

Just ordered this book http://www.amazon.co.uk/Night-Games-Sex-Power-Sport/dp/1863956018

Suggests sportsmen treating women like pieces of meat isn't purely a British phenomenom.

Course it isn't a uk or modern phenomenon. Certain sections of society have operated like this since time began. Men use power and money to get sex and women use sex to get money and power within these circles. Nothing will ever change with these types.  Obviously the vast majority of human beings have no interest operating in these circles.

Well, why can't this case be a turning point?

Most men don't treat women this way, why do we tolerate the few that do?

Even if Evans isn't a rapist (I think he is but I suppose we can wait for the last appeal for absolute confirmation) he is certainly guilty of being a vile human being. Leaving a drunk girl alone in a hotel room, naked, with no phone, money or possessions is descipable behaviour.

Don't just teach young footballers how to hit an inswinging corner or deal with a long ball.

Teach them about relationships and sex and how to treat women.

It's amazing it doesn't happen already, they are plucked from their schools at a ridiclously young age and don't get to learn the life skills most kids learn.

I totally agree with you but human nature means it will always happen. Rich good looking young men want to fuck anything that moves and the girls are happy to play the game.

The recent Phil Neville article about how he can't make a cup of coffee sums up how deluded and out of touch with society the vast majority of footballers are.  The bubble they live in is really frightening.

They're happy to play the game if they consent. She didn't. She didn't invite Evans to that room, she didn't go there to have sex with him.

If a bloke wants to "fuck anything that moves", that's fine if it's between two consenting adults. It's a very different thing to be a man or a woman who "puts it around" to one who thinks they have a right to fuck someone who hasn't consented.

I agree she went there pissed up to a premier inn in Wales after a chance meeting in a kebab shop with a footballer she was in love with Lola. She ordered a pizza pissed up and got laid then his mate turned up who was a lot better looking than the original stud and she said no? Really? I don't know but I think ched has been ironed out here and his father in laws support would suggest the same. Literally hundreds of lol role models do what ched did every Saturday after games. Maybe they should use escort agencies for their quick thrills. Seems like a much better option risk wise.

You honestly think hundreds of "role models" rape women every week? And you think it's OK?

do you think hundreds of girls pissed out of their face meet 'role models' in kebab shops in north wales at 3am every saturday night and fall in love?

[Doobs]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1250360/My-nights-wannabe-WAGs-ashamed-sex.html

Very worryingly how many presumably younger girls are asking on google questions "Were do i find footballers on a night out?" and "How do i increase my chances of being a WAG?"

Not that i am stating in this case this was the thought process just think it is very wrong to think it does not happen

that article is five years old as well it certainly hasn't got any better since then.  

Anyway, just because a woman is desperate to get hold of a celeb boyfriend, does that give the celeb free license to treat her like absolute shit?

Just ordered this book http://www.amazon.co.uk/Night-Games-Sex-Power-Sport/dp/1863956018

Suggests sportsmen treating women like pieces of meat isn't purely a British phenomenom.

Course it isn't a uk or modern phenomenon. Certain sections of society have operated like this since time began. Men use power and money to get sex and women use sex to get money and power within these circles. Nothing will ever change with these types.  Obviously the vast majority of human beings have no interest operating in these circles.

Well, why can't this case be a turning point?

Most men don't treat women this way, why do we tolerate the few that do?

Even if Evans isn't a rapist (I think he is but I suppose we can wait for the last appeal for absolute confirmation) he is certainly guilty of being a vile human being. Leaving a drunk girl alone in a hotel room, naked, with no phone, money or possessions is descipable behaviour.

Don't just teach young footballers how to hit an inswinging corner or deal with a long ball.

Teach them about relationships and sex and how to treat women.

It's amazing it doesn't happen already, they are plucked from their schools at a ridiclously young age and don't get to learn the life skills most kids learn.

I totally agree with you but human nature means it will always happen. Rich good looking young men want to fuck anything that moves and the girls are happy to play the game.

The recent Phil Neville article about how he can't make a cup of coffee sums up how deluded and out of touch with society the vast majority of footballers are.  The bubble they live in is really frightening.

They're happy to play the game if they consent. She didn't. She didn't invite Evans to that room, she didn't go there to have sex with him.

If a bloke wants to "fuck anything that moves", that's fine if it's between two consenting adults. It's a very different thing to be a man or a woman who "puts it around" to one who thinks they have a right to fuck someone who hasn't consented.

I agree she went there pissed up to a premier inn in Wales after a chance meeting in a kebab shop with a footballer she was in love with Lola. She ordered a pizza pissed up and got laid then his mate turned up who was a lot better looking than the original stud and she said no? Really? I don't know but I think ched has been ironed out here and his father in laws support would suggest the same. Literally hundreds of lol role models do what ched did every Saturday after games. Maybe they should use escort agencies for their quick thrills. Seems like a much better option risk wise.

You honestly think hundreds of "role models" rape women every week? And you think it's OK?

do you think hundreds of girls pissed out of their face meet 'role models' in kebab shops in north wales at 3am every saturday night and fall in love?

No offense, but you are just making shit up now.  The girl said she didnt remember anything of either encounter, originally they were both on trial for rape.  She also didn't meet either of them in a kebab shop, so at no stage did she profess her love for either of them there or anywhere else.   

[Ironside]

why on earth has this "person" managed to produce 35 pages on here

i doubt many people had even heard of him outside of the clubs he had played for

i know i had to google

[arbboy]

why on earth has this "person" managed to produce 35 pages on here

i doubt many people had even heard of him outside of the clubs he had played for

i know i had to google

hence why he isnt a role model!

[Ironside]

why on earth has this "person" managed to produce 35 pages on here

i doubt many people had even heard of him outside of the clubs he had played for

i know i had to google

hence why he isnt a role model!

he could be a role model "hero" to young fans who support his teams


i know kids whose parents take them to highland league matches every week and go crazy when they actually meet the players and get autographs
they are role models to them kids (very little of what they do hits the papers though)

[arbboy]

why on earth has this "person" managed to produce 35 pages on here

i doubt many people had even heard of him outside of the clubs he had played for

i know i had to google

hence why he isnt a role model!

he could be a role model "hero" to young fans who support his teams


i know kids whose parents take them to highland league matches every week and go crazy when they actually meet the players and get autographs
they are role models to them kids (very little of what they do hits the papers though)

agreed but the local 50 betting shop degens in my home town think i am a monster hero (i have signed betting slips to punters because i am a hero) because i am the only guy in the town who cant get a bet on in either betting shop in the town!  They worship me.  If i raped a bird would that stop me being a pro punter?  I prob have as many 'fans' - no wealdstone raider gags  as most lower league centre forwards on a monkey a week!  I am as big a role model as a lower league centre forward to my own fan base.

[mulhuzz]

wtf was Steve Bruce doing getting involved in this btw?

[Ironside]

wtf was Steve Bruce doing getting involved in this btw?

he was fed up going to weddings now he wont get invites