Ched Evans

[teddybloat]

I cant claim credit for knuckle deep in the shitter, its from a Browning sonnet I think.

And married men make the most ravenous gay lovers, especially the "just going for a run in the park, love" ones, apparently.

[MANTIS01]

Tbf it's not right to say who the most ravenous gay lovers are from sexual orientation. Everybody shud be classed as equally ravenous imo..

[teddybloat]

Marriedness is inversely proportional to satedness when it comes to gay park sex - that's not for debate, surely

Orientation isn't in the equation

[RickBFA]

Just to clarify I do not strongly object to finger in the bum.

And neither should anybody else.

'Knuckle deep up the shitter' doesn't retain the same romanticism for me mind you

Anyway pls continue...

Quality post, wp, got a lol from me.

[Bazzaboy]

I think the previous behaviour of the key witness is absolutely right to be called into question. This applies whether this be a rape case, robbery, GBH, fraud, whatever. Yes the key witness and the victim are the same person but it is a long established legal precedent that to probe the validity of a witness' statement in light of their previous behaviour.

It's terrible that so many rape victims feel unable to report their experiences for fear of being branded a liar but by the same token, imagine being forced to spend a portion of your life at her majesty's pleasure with your reputation in tatters due to an act which you genuinely and reasonably believed to be completely consensual.

Take away the emotion of the case and the correct legal practise would be to conduct due diligence on the prosecution's key witness and point out issues that were troubling.

I broadly agree but the law for rape is framed differently. This link that Tighty posted earlier is worth a read:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/14/campaigners-fear-evans-case-will-stop-women-reporting?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

I didn't get past the first line because it is complete bollocks. A legal precedent hasn't been set. Articles like that aren't overly helpful.

[Doobs]

Very good cliffs on the Ched Evans trial(s)

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2016/10/14/10-myths-busted-about-the-ched-evans-case/

[Archer]

I think the previous behaviour of the key witness is absolutely right to be called into question. This applies whether this be a rape case, robbery, GBH, fraud, whatever. Yes the key witness and the victim are the same person but it is a long established legal precedent that to probe the validity of a witness' statement in light of their previous behaviour.

It's terrible that so many rape victims feel unable to report their experiences for fear of being branded a liar but by the same token, imagine being forced to spend a portion of your life at her majesty's pleasure with your reputation in tatters due to an act which you genuinely and reasonably believed to be completely consensual.

Take away the emotion of the case and the correct legal practise would be to conduct due diligence on the prosecution's key witness and point out issues that were troubling.

I broadly agree but the law for rape is framed differently. This link that Tighty posted earlier is worth a read:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/14/campaigners-fear-evans-case-will-stop-women-reporting?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

I didn't get past the first line because it is complete bollocks. A legal precedent hasn't been set. Articles like that aren't overly helpful.

Shame you didn't get past the headline which is a different tone to the factual content in the section "the appeal" and a background to the law on these cases.

[Archer]

Very good cliffs on the Ched Evans trial(s)

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2016/10/14/10-myths-busted-about-the-ched-evans-case/

Thks for that. Excellent link.

[arbboy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-37666228

[hhyftrftdr]

Very good cliffs on the Ched Evans trial(s)

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2016/10/14/10-myths-busted-about-the-ched-evans-case/

Very good read indeed.

[PokerBroker]

How so?

A woman with a long history of never falsely claiming to have been raped is less likely to do so, also.

Red comes up 6 times on the roulette wheel, do you lump on?

How many professional footballers is she likely to have had in the sack, and was this seen as a payday? 

[TightEnd]

The family of Ched Evans are "considering their legal options" against ITV's Loose Women

http://bbc.in/2eeK6kH

[ripple11]

For those interested, the full appeal that lead to the retrial is here.

https://www.crimeline.info/uploads/cases/2016/chedevansappealx.pdf

[The Camel]

The family of Ched Evans are "considering their legal options" against ITV's Loose Women

http://bbc.in/2eeK6kH

They can consider their legal options as much as they like, but it's impossible to disagree with what Nadia Sawalha said.

[StuartHopkin]

The family of Ched Evans are "considering their legal options" against ITV's Loose Women

http://bbc.in/2eeK6kH

They can consider their legal options as much as they like, but it's impossible to disagree with what Nadia Sawalha said.

I disagree with her comments to be honest. She is making a very specific situation into something very general.

It's not her they are talking about though is it?
It is Gloria Hunniford's comments which I think even you would have to agree overstepped the mark?