Are seating scripts destroying online poker cash games?

[TightEnd]

article here....

"discussion moved onto seating scripts, which are a type of software program that automatically sit the players who use them at the juiciest tables. And, once again, the accusation against them is that this is posing a real threat to the poker's future. In a nutshell, the seating scripts are computer programs designed to automate and optimize the process of table selection, a truly crucial aspect of the game.

"The purpose of a seating script is to get a seat, optimally to the left of a recreational player without having to play other regulars three-handed,"

http://uk.pokernews.com/news/2014/10/are-seating-scripts-killing-online-poker-15511.htm


In a long blog post dedicated to the issue, Microgaming’s Head of Poker Alex Scott tried to give his opinion about the effect that seating scripts can have for the industry and the way operators deal with them.

http://www.thempn.eu/blog/scripts/

[Woodsey]

Surprisingly quiet this thread, string 'em up I say 

[SuuPRlim]

yes they are.

It's less about what seating scripts are, as in isolation they are fairly irrelevant, but it's this culture that now develops where its a constant battle to out-grim each other, takes focus of the games and makes the enviroment of poker worse for everyone, recs and regs alike.

Like the cold war, Russia had a nuke so US gets 3, so Russia gets 13, so US gets 41 and before you know it there's enough nukes to destory the planet 300 times over, all just to ensure that no-one, ever, fires a nuke.

This is 100% something that affects regs not recs - really badly too.

[Rexas]

Should all play zoom imo

[DMorgan]

A fun game when you're a bit tilted is to troll the seat scripters.

Sit down at at any empty full ring NL cash table on stars at 2/4 or higher. You'll be surrounded by regs before you've even sat in.

[muckthenuts]

A fun game when you're a bit tilted is to troll the seat scripters.

Sit down at at any empty full ring NL cash table on stars at 2/4 or higher. You'll be surrounded by regs before you've even sat in.

Gonna do this now and report back

[SuuPRlim]

A fun game when you're a bit tilted is to troll the seat scripters.

Sit down at at any empty full ring NL cash table on stars at 2/4 or higher. You'll be surrounded by regs before you've even sat in.

I used to do this on ipoker all the time for lol's at 50/100 waiting for action in PLO games, then one time I get myself sat into a HU hand with KKatya (proudlikeagoat/Katya_19) I had a $2k stack and a pair of 9's and he knew my game so spited me AI with a  QTo and won.

So there's some justice right there...

[Ledders]

A fun game when you're a bit tilted is to troll the seat scripters.

Sit down at at any empty full ring NL cash table on stars at 2/4 or higher. You'll be surrounded by regs before you've even sat in.

Just been doing this for a while now as can't play any mtts for another few hours.

The best I managed was 13 on the waitlist at 400NL without ever sitting in and watching regs having to play an orbit against each other amused me. Thanks for this!

[Doobs]

A fun game when you're a bit tilted is to troll the seat scripters.

Sit down at at any empty full ring NL cash table on stars at 2/4 or higher. You'll be surrounded by regs before you've even sat in.

Just been doing this for a while now as can't play any mtts for another few hours.

The best I managed was 13 on the waitlist at 400NL without ever sitting in and watching regs having to play an orbit against each other amused me. Thanks for this!

I wouldn't recommend this.  I had a go last night on the app before bed, and ended up dealt in the blinds.  I thought I'd do an orbit so I didn't end up just paying the blinds.  Hit TPTK vs a set, and then a low pair and bad end of the straight draw vs a pair and the other end.  Did near $500   I probably have less than 100 hands total ever on stars cash and the rest of them weren't much better from what I remember.

The sad thing was I snap left when the big blind came round and the rest had gone in a couple of minutes.  Sorry state of affairs when somebody joins the table, plays like an idiot, does over 100 BBs in one orbit and the regs can't even wait 2 minutes to see if I return.  It must look absolutely appalling to a rec playing the game for the first time.  Most of those regs shouldn't spend one single second criticising stars for the changes they have made. 

[Whollyflush]

I'm a regular in these games and these scripts are really annoying particularly the musiclal R's which stop games from starting quicker. I don't have a script, and i don't generally play HU at 6m tables as it takes up too much of my attention while multi-tabling but as a by product i think theres more reg battling 4/5 handed (usually non scripters like myself who can't get on a table otherwise) than there has been in the last 6/7 years.

One thing i will mention aboutt tables snap breaking when a fish leaves is that bumhunters will snap quit and regs in my position know this and know we will get buttoned so your damned if you do and damned if you don't. Im on course to play 4000 less buttons than BB's this year which will probably cost me a low five figures which eats heavily into any midstakes regulars yearly income.

[SuuPRlim]

One thing i will mention aboutt tables snap breaking when a fish leaves is that bumhunters will snap quit and regs in my position know this and know we will get buttoned so your damned if you do and damned if you don't. Im on course to play 4000 less buttons than BB's this year which will probably cost me a low five figures which eats heavily into any midstakes regulars yearly income.

exactly, exactly this.

last year i paid 3600 more BB's than BTN's, I took the average win p/btn and added 1800 more of those to my overall bottom line and deducted 1800 average losses per BB and the difference was a shade under £29,000.

[AndrewT]

No money in poker, everyone's button-stealing.

[Whollyflush]

One thing i will mention aboutt tables snap breaking when a fish leaves is that bumhunters will snap quit and regs in my position know this and know we will get buttoned so your damned if you do and damned if you don't. Im on course to play 4000 less buttons than BB's this year which will probably cost me a low five figures which eats heavily into any midstakes regulars yearly income.

exactly, exactly this.

last year i paid 3600 more BB's than BTN's, I took the average win p/btn and added 1800 more of those to my overall bottom line and deducted 1800 average losses per BB and the difference was a shade under £29,000.

brutal

[SuuPRlim]

like you say though it's all the snap sitting out when rec's quit that is shady and that is because of this.

Why, why on earth there isn't something programmed into the software where when it quits to 3 handed you have to play a level number of btns/bbs/sbs, or be stacked, in order to quit the game? Seems so easy, then no-one would mind and people wouldn't need to risk insta quitting when the recs quit cos they know they'll get  an even amount of btns.

[MC]

From 2+2: Seating script in action at $3/6...table has no fish so the script rejects the table: