Scottish Football Betting & General Discussion Thread (Open to All)

[Teacake]

In Edinburgh this weekend visiting my missus who lives here.  Was reading an interesting article about Rodger's being appointed in it today.  No idea of their club loyalty as a paper so i might be reading it unaware 'Scotland on Sunday'. Leftie paper?  Looked more independent style to me from reading it cover to cover. Had some good articles on numerous areas included politics/sport (interesting article on why Murray dropped the coach).

They said Desmond has gone shit or bust financially to get a top top gaffer because he was really fucked off with Rangers' reaction in the directors box in the semi final this year when the Rangers directors behaved in a very unprofessional manner towards the Celtic directors when they got through to the final after he had been very professional towards Rangers in 2012 when they went busto and said Rangers were a huge British club and Celtic needed them for the good of Scottish football and wanted them back asap.  Sounded like he was determined to make sure he does everything in his power to stop Rangers thinking they will ever catch up with Celtic in the short and medium term and really put them in their place.

If he said this he is hilariously kidding himself on.  When we were relegated they immediately put up big banners at Celtic park taking a dig at Rangers.  There was a vote of the SPL clubs also to allow Rangers to go back into the premier league which they voted against, which goes against their need to have Rangers there for the good of scottish football.

You've spelt liquidated incorrectly.

[Teacake]

I do enjoy the official club statements from the new club but this has to be my favourite. For once they had the moral high ground and they still managed to fuck it by playing to the hordes and actually condone them for invading the pitch.

Sunday, 22 May 2016, 18:36
by Rangers Football Club

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Rangers finds it incomprehensible that no one, either from within the Scottish FA or Hibernian Football Club, has condemned Hibernian’s supporters following the violent scenes at the end of yesterday’s Scottish Cup final when Rangers players and members of our backroom staff were physically and verbally assaulted. We have not even had the courtesy of any contact whatsoever from Hibernian to ask after the wellbeing of those who were attacked by their club’s supporters.

There must be a full independent investigation into the shameful scenes at Hampden. Rangers is also at a complete loss to understand why certain individuals have hastily attempted to gloss over the appalling events which unfolded at the end of Saturday’s final.

No matter how many times Hibernian’s chairman and Scottish FA vice-chairman, Rod Petrie, and certain other biased commentators wish to play down Saturday’s mayhem and violence, the truth must not be distorted. What unfolded on Saturday cannot and must not be put down to exuberance. That is a complete insult to Rangers, our supporters, and those individuals who were intimidated and attacked.

It was clear to most of those who watched in horror that the Scottish FA’s security procedures failed when Hibernian’s fans went over the top in their thousands. It is to be hoped that all of Scottish football will share Rangers’ disgust and any attempts to attach blame to our supporters for the disgraceful and violent behaviour, which led to our players and fans fearing for their safety, will not be accepted or tolerated by this Club.

We acknowledge that a tiny minority of Rangers fans also encroached on the pitch but only after having been faced with prolonged and severe provocation and in order to protect our players and officials who were being visibly attacked in front of them. Any club’s supporters would have done the same. This distressing and deeply disturbing episode would never have happened had Hibs fans behaved properly but as they swarmed across the pitch it became immediately obvious that the security procedures were inadequate and had failed.

These fans were allowed to rush, unchecked, towards Rangers supporters at the opposite end of the stadium – all the while goading and threatening them. This makes it preposterous to suggest Rangers fans were somehow to blame as some commentators appear anxious to do. This thuggish behaviour must be investigated and as many culprits as possible brought to book and formally charged. This is the second time in a year that Rangers fans have had to endure attacks by another club’s supporters.

It must also be said that it was not at all helpful to see leading members of the Scottish Government, including the First Minister whose parish is Govan, passing comment on social media without any attempt to condemn the behaviour of Hibernian’s fans. These failures are unbecoming of our elected representatives.

Certain media outlets have also attempted to distort reality. In the case of the BBC this is, of course, not news. BBC employees, in particular Stuart Cosgrove, believe Rod Petrie’s comments to be ‘balanced’ and others speak of a ‘minority’ of Hibernian supporters. Another, Tom English, who was not even at the match, would prefer the authorities to focus on Rangers fans’ reaction. We will not endure this insult.

So, let everyone be clear on one thing – Rangers demands that players, staff and fans be protected from the violence and hatred of supporters of other clubs. Rangers fully expects the Scottish FA and Police Scotland to take action to provide our people with a safe environment. When players are unable to accept medals at the end of a final because of fears for their safety and our supporters are alarmed and extremely concerned for the women and children among them, then surely every step must be taken to ensure that this is

[maccol]

The Scottish Poker Association (SPA) has launched an investigation into yesterday's "Final Table Invasion" and subsequent riot by Todd Cairns' fans after his 25/25 Series victory in Glasgow. The fans of his opponent, Steven Smith, showed tremendous restraint and only entered the Final Table area to prevent Steven and his coaching staff from being assaulted by Todd's rabble.

It was a shameful episode for Scottish Poker which resulted in Steven having to pick up his runner up medal in the car park and Todd not being able to complete his lap of honour round the card room.*
 * All of this may or may not be true

[PokerBroker]

That statement from Rangers was like a declaration of war. I take it when Jimbo Traynor wrote that he was still on the Whisky and Succulent Lamb? 

[Longines]

As a neutral it did seem a tad combative.

[PokerBroker]

Seems Joey Barton has gone to the rangers according to sjy sources he will have his medical today.  I wish him well, I really do.  I wonder though what the rangers fans will think of him when they read these comments from his twitter account.

Can open worms everywhere.

[Ironside]

what are everyones views on rangers this season

bookies have winners without celtic as rangers 1.5 and aberdeen 4.3 hearts 8.0

i think its going to be much closer than that and by christmas i would be surprised if all 3 or the above are much closer together in the odds

[rinswun]

Warburton's got a magic hat. Talk of them getting Pritchard on loan. He'd look like Maradona in the SPL.

[Ironside]

Also talk of them getting rvp but all these players will need to gel and get used to getting lumps kicked out of them week in week out by 3rd rate players that would be playing conference in the English league

[Rod Paradise]

Rangers were defensively poor for large parts of last season, and I don't think Clint Hill (nearly as old as Tikay) will be the answer. Think they'll be good for high scoring games, but will ship enough goals that they won't be challenging at the top after about Oct/Nov, fairly soft start could see them up there early on though.

The odds on RVP & bookies stopping taking bets leading to big hopes sounds like the similar scenario for us with Ibrahimovic earlier in the summer - same result too.

[Ironside]

Unbelievable ref tonight but in a way i am happy team has been warmed up well and we should get a good start to season, without the distraction of a play off.

team did actually look good tonight and despite not scoring we looked better  offensively than we did last season and Lewis despite the bobble  looks a reasonable keeper
Dont think he is as good as Ward was last year but time will tell. Think we can get 2nd again this year and maybe even get the gap to Celtic into single figures

[Ironside]

what on earth are celtic playing at 3-0 up at half time then 3-2 before the 60 minute mark

we need a strong celtic in europe to help get our ranking up

[Ironside]

strong finish but never good to let in 2 away goals

5-2 to the celts

[Teacake]

The first half is as well as we've played in years in Europe, Rodgers has made a huge difference already.
They never looked liked scoring but then again we are always liable to lose soft goals. Great nights entertainment though and good to see my big pal Rod after the game.

[PokerBroker]

Celtic looked good.  Played with pace passing was sharp few were misplaced but sure BR will work on that.  Defending was sloppy for goals I think they just turned off.

Pretty happy taking 5 - 2 lead into next week's tie.