NFL 2015 season Thread

[Tal]

Even further back!

[TightEnd]

congratulations to jay cutler and crew

[Tal]

Joe Buscaglia –  ‏@JoeBuscaglia

EJ Manuel has been the best quarterback today, and it hasn't even been close. #Bills

8:37 am - 18 Jun 2015

[Evilpengwinz]

haven't looked

trent dilfer/baltimore

Was going to say Rex Grossman until I read the question properly. Dilfer definitely made a Pro Bowl. And NFL knowledge pre-2000 is poor.

If I had to make an educated guess, I'd go with the Superbowl winning QB from 1982, because the shorter season with the players strike means there must be more chance for a team with a poor QB to heater and get into the playoffs, or for a team with a top QB to play poorly and still get in, right?

Not a clue who won that year, or who their Quarterback would've been, though.

[tikay]

haven't looked

trent dilfer/baltimore

Was going to say Rex Grossman until I read the question properly. Dilfer definitely made a Pro Bowl. And NFL knowledge pre-2000 is poor.

If I had to make an educated guess, I'd go with the Superbowl winning QB from 1982, because the shorter season with the players strike means there must be more chance for a team with a poor QB to heater and get into the playoffs, or for a team with a top QB to play poorly and still get in, right?

Not a clue who won that year, or who their Quarterback would've been, though.

Good to see you back here Andy, don't be a stranger.

[Newportlad]

Havent looked, but maybe Mark Rypien for the Redskins?

Seem to remember them winning one with him at QB.

[Tal]

Here's one for a bit of fun:

After meeting with Roger Goodell, Tom Brady's ban for Deflategate will be...what?

[Marky147]

1 game?

[Stopsleyhatter]

One game to keep the Steelers happy..

[TL900]

1 game that they can use any week before their bye (JAX at home week 3)

[Tal]

It's really frustrating how frequently the headline sanction gets reduced on appeal in sport. Does this mean the original investigation was flawed? In criminal proceedings, sentences can be reduced, but the sifting processes and the depth of the judgments at first instance mean very few see any change.

Yet, Brady seems almost inevitably to be getting a few games back, while Kraft and the Pats office can maintain the high ground by saying they'll accept whatever is given.

Unsurprisingly, I'd quite like him to miss the game against the Bills

[TightEnd]

think the Pats have the cowboys week 4

such will be the ratings for that one that i would be stunned if the suspension was in force by week 4

not at all cynical!

the greg hardy appeal is 3 weeks in the decision and counting too

[Tal]

OK. Next question. How much would you pay Russell Wilson? Let's focus on the guarantee figure for ease with total in brackets.

Here's the market for comparison:

Rodgers $54m (110)
Bradford $50m (78)
Ryan $42m (104)
Stafford $41m (53)
Newton $41m (103)
Romo $40m (108)
Brees $40m (100)
Rivers $38m (92)
Cutler $38m (126)
Eli Manning $35m (97)
Brady $35m (57)

(taken from http://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/)

What strikes me about that list is they are all passing QBs. There's relatively little mobility there, with the possible exception of Cam Newton (though I can't help feeling some of his movement is through necessity). Russell Wilson is a different kind of man. He is a dual threat QB but benefits hugely from the beast behind him, the imposing home crowd and the shut-out defense. How good would he be if he had, say, the San Francisco Defense (top 10, but not much more) and, say, Jeremy Hill as his running back?

Where does Wilson fit in that list, when the league pays quarterbacks on their value in the pocket?

[Nakor]

Above Romo and below Ryan for me so $41 million.
The only thing I can base that on is who I would take for my team.
Not sure I would want anyone below Romo in that list if I had a free pick (taking age into account), and don't think he has the talent of Ryan or Rodgers but I would take him at Dallas in a heartbeat.

[TightEnd]

Above Romo and below Ryan for me so $41 million.
The only thing I can base that on is who I would take for my team.
Not sure I would want anyone below Romo in that list if I had a free pick (taking age into account), and don't think he has the talent of Ryan or Rodgers but I would take him at Dallas in a heartbeat.

Romo is chronically underrated. been let down by defense and until recently offensive line for years. had his best ever season last year when playing with the aftermath of a broken back precisely because his offensive line was so good they could lean on the run game

Wilson below Rodgers for me, above the rest (ignoring the bradford contract as not representative of the current player) including Ryan

stafford and cutler look terrible contracts but the risk/reward on second contracts for franchise quarterbacks is huge