Impressive, or standard?

[david3103]

if this sort of thing was widely known by the recs, it would be terrible news for poker wouldn't it?

just seems like a PR disaster waiting to happen. Again.

Exactly.

It's stuff like this that completely puts me off wanting to play an EPT or similar.

People pretend the game's moved on from Puggy Pearson and Amarillo Slim.

This wouldn't put me off playing an EPT, the whole having to go to places like Malta and Monaco does that  

Oh, and the €5k plus buy in

[Tal]

if this sort of thing was widely known by the recs, it would be terrible news for poker wouldn't it?

just seems like a PR disaster waiting to happen. Again.

Exactly.

It's stuff like this that completely puts me off wanting to play an EPT or similar.

People pretend the game's moved on from Puggy Pearson and Amarillo Slim.

This wouldn't put me off playing an EPT, the whole having to go to places like Malta and Monaco does that  

Oh, and the €5k plus buy in

If your point is I'm not good enough to play in a tournament of that standard, fine. But, if I were to luckbox a satellite, I'd be 1.01 to sell it rather than travel and play. It just isn't attractive to me, personally.

I do consider poker to be going back to the dark ages of hustlers, swindlers and conmen. Perhaps it was ever thus but they seem both more prominent and - worryingly - more accepted than they were since the seventies.

[david3103]

if this sort of thing was widely known by the recs, it would be terrible news for poker wouldn't it?

just seems like a PR disaster waiting to happen. Again.

Exactly.

It's stuff like this that completely puts me off wanting to play an EPT or similar.

People pretend the game's moved on from Puggy Pearson and Amarillo Slim.

This wouldn't put me off playing an EPT, the whole having to go to places like Malta and Monaco does that 

Oh, and the €5k plus buy in

If your point is I'm not good enough to play in a tournament of that standard, fine. But, if I were to luckbox a satellite, I'd be 1.01 to sell it rather than travel and play. It just isn't attractive to me, personally.

I do consider poker to be going back to the dark ages of hustlers, swindlers and conmen. Perhaps it was ever thus but they seem both more prominent and - worryingly - more accepted than they were since the seventies.

I wouldn't presume to offer any judgement of your abilities..

I was attempting humour. Failed obviously.

Hustlers Swindlers and Conmen LLP will always be around the game. You don't need to travel that far to find them. Fast food outlet owners rinsing the undeclared cash from last night's sales; dodgy dealings with stakee facing staker (or staker's buddy) late in a tourney; running mates registering late for a tournament and all being seated at the same table. There's money to be made, why would we ever imagine the game is pure?
It's not a level playing field.


And yet, in the same way that clean athletes compete with the drug cheats we keep coming back.

Vicky won two EPTs. I'd be utterly shocked and very very sad to discover that she had any sort of team monitoring the stream for her.

[Tal]

if this sort of thing was widely known by the recs, it would be terrible news for poker wouldn't it?

just seems like a PR disaster waiting to happen. Again.

Exactly.

It's stuff like this that completely puts me off wanting to play an EPT or similar.

People pretend the game's moved on from Puggy Pearson and Amarillo Slim.

This wouldn't put me off playing an EPT, the whole having to go to places like Malta and Monaco does that 

Oh, and the €5k plus buy in

If your point is I'm not good enough to play in a tournament of that standard, fine. But, if I were to luckbox a satellite, I'd be 1.01 to sell it rather than travel and play. It just isn't attractive to me, personally.

I do consider poker to be going back to the dark ages of hustlers, swindlers and conmen. Perhaps it was ever thus but they seem both more prominent and - worryingly - more accepted than they were since the seventies.

I wouldn't presume to offer any judgement of your abilities..

I was attempting humour. Failed obviously.

Hustlers Swindlers and Conmen LLP will always be around the game. You don't need to travel that far to find them. Fast food outlet owners rinsing the undeclared cash from last night's sales; dodgy dealings with stakee facing staker (or staker's buddy) late in a tourney; running mates registering late for a tournament and all being seated at the same table. There's money to be made, why would we ever imagine the game is pure?
It's not a level playing field.


And yet, in the same way that clean athletes compete with the drug cheats we keep coming back.

Vicky won two EPTs. I'd be utterly shocked and very very sad to discover that she had any sort of team monitoring the stream for her.

I wouldn't worry about it being a failed joke; it's true!

But if people like me don't want to try to play in these tournaments, the tours have no future.

And poker loses the veneer of legitimacy that is crucial to its appeal to a wider audience.

[simonnatur]

Don't really love any of this, and points towards returns from Pro poker trending lower and lower when people feel they must push for every extra edge.

On the other hand, I don't expect "A Level Playing Field" in the stock market, Sport or business, so why should poker be different