Ducks in Muck?

[shipitgood]

4 Handed in a MTT (FT), Blinds 2k/4k

We have approx. 85-90k UTG

Button had 130k (chip leader).

SB and BB have approx 10 bigs.

The chip leader has been messin about a bit, putting pressure on us.

Plus with the 2 Shorties have a similar stack/ ideal shoving stack.

Too tight to fold pre?

[UgotNuts]

I think I fold UTG is fine here.

[MC]

Might be able to shove profitably here, worth looking at. If not def folding.

[Honeybadger]

Might be able to shove profitably here, worth looking at. If not def folding.

Yeah, maybe one of these clever ICM programs will show it is a profitable shove. But instinctively I doubt it. And min-raising sucks too. So I'd just fold.

[rfgqqabc]

If there were antes I would jam, without I will fold happily.

[dakky]

If there were antes I would jam, without I will fold happily.

probably this.

what are payouts?

[shipitgood]

Forgot all about this hand.

It was a £55 bounty hunter, I ended up winning it for £750. 2nd got 525, 3rd 4th got about 270/280 (bounties)

It was really interesting, I just folded.

I discussed it with a friend afterwards who was saying it should be a min raise.

But given the big stack messin about/ 2 shorties felt id just fold it.

Really interesting some are saying jamming. I totally understand people saying this could be a profitable jam, but if in the off chance chip leader wakes up with a monster it would be a total disaster. I wouldn't have considered jamming this particular hand in this particular spot, when I posted was looking more at min raise/ fold.

There is no antis in play.

2 hands after this one I found a really awesome spot to get a double up through the chip leader.

[pleno1]

Would definitely shove if there's antes