England cricket team

[Woodsey]

Will finally get to see a bit tomorrow! Went to the Notts T20 tonight, great close game, has got me in the mood......

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[MereNovice]

Strange but true:

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2   nellberg's nurdlers   3946
3   Mere Novices   3875
4   KOLPAK XI   3610
5   Nakor   3531


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[Woodsey]

Got to be honest, didn't see us winning this game as well as that before it kicked off!

[Tal]

What price would you back Australia at now for the Ashes?

Hard to see them playing as badly and England so consistently well next time.

[arbboy]

What price would you back Australia at now for the Ashes?

Hard to see them playing as badly and England so consistently well next time.

Don't want this to sound like after timing and i am not massively up to date on cricket but why was this aussie side considered so great?  I don't see any all time great world beaters in the side compared to the aussie sides of the past 20 years?

England, however, have their all time leading test wicket taker and run scorer in their squad.  I appreciate this is a rather simple view of things but i am just a bit surprised having watched a fair bit of the first test as a casual cricket fan why the Aussies were considered such big favs pre event for the series away from home.

[Woodsey]

What price would you back Australia at now for the Ashes?

Hard to see them playing as badly and England so consistently well next time.

I would never ever be such a Judas at real prices....

[booder]

Got to be honest, didn't see us winning this game as well as that before it kicked off!

Thought we bowled really well today and Cook captained the side pretty well.

Massive wickets just before lunch, and just after.

[Tal]

What price would you back Australia at now for the Ashes?

Hard to see them playing as badly and England so consistently well next time.

Don't want this to sound like after timing and i am not massively up to date on cricket but why was this aussie side considered so great?  I don't see any all time great world beaters in the side compared to the aussie sides of the past 20 years?

England, however, have their all time leading test wicket taker and run scorer in their squad.  I appreciate this is a rather simple view of things but i am just a bit surprised having watched a fair bit of the first test as a casual cricket fan why the Aussies were considered such big favs pre event for the series away from home.

There will be a very different pitch at HQ. The groundsman isn't known for listening to "advice" on how to prepare his pitch. If it's fast and bouncy - well, anything but a slow, miserable thing - it should be a different match.

Everything went England's way this test. I don't think you're aftertiming. It's closer to recency bias, really.

I don't agree that Australia are overrated, but anyway, long may this run of England wins continue!

[nellberg]

Teams who have gone 1-0 up in an Ashes series have won something like 70% of the series in the history of the Ashes, and it's happened 15 of the last 17 series, with England
going 1 up in 97 and Australia leading 1-0 in 2005 the only recent occasions of a series lead flip-flopping.

The odds on the series are now England 11/10, Australia 15/8, the draw 9/2. Going purely by the stats England looks a good price, but I can't have it. Starc's injury issues are a worry for an aussie backer, but given the inconsistency of England in recent times I'd want to be on the Aussies at lords.

[tikay]

Teams who have gone 1-0 up in an Ashes series have won something like 70% of the series in the history of the Ashes, and it's happened 15 of the last 17 series, with England
going 1 up in 97 and Australia leading 1-0 in 2005 the only recent occasions of a series lead flip-flopping.

The odds on the series are now England 11/10, Australia 15/8, the draw 9/2. Going purely by the stats England looks a good price, but I can't have it. Starc's injury issues are a worry for an aussie backer, but given the inconsistency of England in recent times I'd want to be on the Aussies at lords.

What are the historical maths on a drawn series after a team goes 1 up after one test? 9/2 looks tempting, but its just gut feel & I have no idea of the math.

Weather often plays a significant part in these matters in England, of course.

[nellberg]

Teams who have gone 1-0 up in an Ashes series have won something like 70% of the series in the history of the Ashes, and it's happened 15 of the last 17 series, with England
going 1 up in 97 and Australia leading 1-0 in 2005 the only recent occasions of a series lead flip-flopping.

The odds on the series are now England 11/10, Australia 15/8, the draw 9/2. Going purely by the stats England looks a good price, but I can't have it. Starc's injury issues are a worry for an aussie backer, but given the inconsistency of England in recent times I'd want to be on the Aussies at lords.

What are the historical maths on a drawn series after a team goes 1 up after one test? 9/2 looks tempting, but its just gut feel & I have no idea of the math.

Weather often plays a significant part in these matters in England, of course.

no drawn series since 1972, is that right? jeeeeeeeeez. only 5 ever, 4 of which were in a 6 series period in the 60's and 70's. Seems strange given they are often competitive series that there has been so few drawn series. genuinely surprised by that. 22 straight series where there has been an outright winner. 100% book at best prices as PP went top price on Eng and Oz, must be keen on the draw like you :-0

[tikay]

Teams who have gone 1-0 up in an Ashes series have won something like 70% of the series in the history of the Ashes, and it's happened 15 of the last 17 series, with England
going 1 up in 97 and Australia leading 1-0 in 2005 the only recent occasions of a series lead flip-flopping.

The odds on the series are now England 11/10, Australia 15/8, the draw 9/2. Going purely by the stats England looks a good price, but I can't have it. Starc's injury issues are a worry for an aussie backer, but given the inconsistency of England in recent times I'd want to be on the Aussies at lords.

What are the historical maths on a drawn series after a team goes 1 up after one test? 9/2 looks tempting, but its just gut feel & I have no idea of the math.

Weather often plays a significant part in these matters in England, of course.

no drawn series since 1972, is that right? jeeeeeeeeez. only 5 ever, 4 of which were in a 6 series period in the 60's and 70's. Seems strange given they are often competitive series that there has been so few drawn series. genuinely surprised by that. 22 straight series where there has been an outright winner. 100% book at best prices as PP went top price on Eng and Oz, must be keen on the draw like you :-0

Wow, that's really surprised me. So much for gut feel. 9/2 does not seem quite so big now.

[mulhuzz]

Is the only reason the Aussies are faves for Lords test because they think the pitch will do more and offer a bit to the Aussie quicks?

Seems very strange to me that England have absolutely torn the Aussies apart in Cardiff but aren't faves at Lords. I know the wicket will be different, but still seems a bit silly. Before I wade in, am I missing something obvious?

[nellberg]

Is the only reason the Aussies are faves for Lords test because they think the pitch will do more and offer a bit to the Aussie quicks?

Seems very strange to me that England have absolutely torn the Aussies apart in Cardiff but aren't faves at Lords. I know the wicket will be different, but still seems a bit silly. Before I wade in, am I missing something obvious?

We should all wade in, it's a 10% arb at the moment :-) Aussies only marginal favs tbf. They came into the series as pretty hot favourites, i guess one solitary result isn't enough to change favouritism. Pretty much everything went right for Eng, and everything wrong for Aussies. will it be repeatable for Eng? given the book % at the moment you're unlikely to get a bigger price than is available atm

[Woodsey]

Is the only reason the Aussies are faves for Lords test because they think the pitch will do more and offer a bit to the Aussie quicks?

Seems very strange to me that England have absolutely torn the Aussies apart in Cardiff but aren't faves at Lords. I know the wicket will be different, but still seems a bit silly. Before I wade in, am I missing something obvious?

Tourists always raise their game at Lords, home of cricket and all that and wanting their names on the honours boards. It's one of the reasons they switched the first test away from Lords a few years back because England were finding themselves 1-0 down after the first test far too often.