The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[doubleup]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36678222

EU trade commissioner says that its illegal to hold trade talks until brexit is complete - that's what the 2 years is all about.  So the UK will be facing tariffs on exports and the banks will be frozen out at the end of the two years until the trade agreement is concluded.  Obviously all the damage will be done by then.

[AndrewT]

The Daily Mail declares for Theresa May, throwing a spanner in the works of the plan of Mail columnist Lady McGove.

[JohnCharver]

Dont think question time could have found more terrible MPs from labour/tory. Mr says nothing and mrs lets attack tories. So indicative of politicians and they have no idea THEY are the problem zzzzzzz they are making carswell look normal and the person whos spoken most sense so far is russell kane.

[AndrewT]

Head of steam building for Andrea Leadsom - she's now into second favourite, ahead of Gove.

Good progress for someone who I, someone who's interested in this kind of thing more than most, had never heard of 6 weeks ago.

[JohnCharver]

Head of steam building for Andrea Leadsom - she's now into second favourite, ahead of Gove.

Good progress for someone who I, someone who's interested in this kind of thing more than most, had never heard of 6 weeks ago.

Think its more goves weakness, because may is shortening faster, leadsoms position is alot more steady. Shes at a big disadvantage currently as theres only two candidates being discussed to any real levels.

Leadsom and gove are short for chancellor, clearly expecting May to buy them off?

[Marky_Crash]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36678222

EU trade commissioner says that its illegal to hold trade talks until brexit is complete - that's what the 2 years is all about.  So the UK will be facing tariffs on exports and the banks will be frozen out at the end of the two years until the trade agreement is concluded.  Obviously all the damage will be done by then.

Surely this would be a total disaster? Cannot make deals with other countries until we are fully out and cannot negotiate a deal with the EU till we are out, caught in no man's land. And that article highlights that Canada's deal has been 7 years in the making and won't be complete for a year or two yet.

[BigAdz]

Been to three countries this week including Germany today. Thus far, I have received nothing other than the same warm welcome and just general  both amusement and shock at our Brexit.

I explain, we aren't  a racist nation, and are happy to take anyone with something to offer, but not just freeloaders claiming asylum from a hard days work, and to a man, everyone has agreed, regardless of nationality. More so today, the Germans! It seems there is far more sympathy for the crux of our argument then the haters would have you believe.

On a person to person level, things seem fine, but what happens when a bunch of people who have never done a days work in their lives*, get to decide if we can still do business together, who knows?

[ripple11]

Head of steam building for Andrea Leadsom - she's now into second favourite, ahead of Gove.

Good progress for someone who I, someone who's interested in this kind of thing more than most, had never heard of 6 weeks ago.

Think its more goves weakness, because may is shortening faster, leadsoms position is alot more steady. Shes at a big disadvantage currently as theres only two candidates being discussed to any real levels.

Leadsom and gove are short for chancellor, clearly expecting May to buy them off?

May doesnt like Gove, and as AndrewT says, who on earth is Andrea Leadsom to make such a big jump. (ok she has a background in finance)

Must be some value in finding the next chancellor. Chris Grayling  (who proposed her as leader)  maybe at 12/1?

Andrea Leadsom                                 2                                                   
Michael Gove                                 5/2                                                   
Philip Hammond                                 7                                                   
Sajid Javid                                           7                                                   
Theresa May                                        7                                                   
Chris Grayling                                 12                                                   
Matthew Hancock                                 16                                                   
Greg Hands                                         20                                                   
Jeremy Hunt                                 20                                                   
Nicky Morgan                                 20                                                   
Priti Patel                                         20                                                   
Boris Johnson                                 25                                                   
Liam Fox         

[ripple11]

oh found this

After university, Hancock briefly worked for his family’s computer software company,[3] before moving to London to work as an economist at the Bank of England, specialising in the housing market.[4] In 2005 he became an economic adviser to the Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne, later becoming Osborne's chief of staff.[1]

 backing May as leader on newsnight

16/1 might be worth a couple of quid

[TightEnd]

the time Gove told a select committee that it was possible for everyone to be above average

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[TightEnd]

The official Tory leadership candidates and their pitches to the party http://specc.ie/2955qHr

[TightEnd]

Interesting

One of the Remain campaign ads that was blocked by No 10.

More here via Campaign mag http://bit.ly/294L5SL

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[TightEnd]

Why the Labour rebels have delayed their leadership challenge: http://bit.ly/2965HGp

[TightEnd]

Bank of England Govenor Mark Carney says economic outlook has 'deteriorated'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-bank-of-england-to-cut-interest-rates-says-mark-carney-a7111621.html

[TightEnd]

"There is a very deep pit reserved in Hell for such as he" - Tory MP Jake Berry on Michael Gove