Scoop Hand

[Mark_Porter]

Scoop $11 Progressive Knockout MTT

Less than 2K runners left, we are in the money. Payouts not really interesting until the final couple of tables. We have a $35 bounty compared to both villains who have $10 bounties.

Structure is deep.

PokerStars Hand #135276859810: Tournament #1182218368, $5+$5+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (700/1400) - 2015/05/15 0:43:35 WET [2015/05/14 19:43:35 ET]
Table '1182218368 740' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: mantasdino (78150 in chips)
Seat 2: jansen26 (26375 in chips)
Seat 3: Belekaaaaaas (53487 in chips)
Seat 4: Mark_Port157 (43236 in chips)
Seat 5: alex max 500 (76283 in chips)
Seat 7: TheNilehorse (88929 in chips)
Seat 8: I love you71 (55743 in chips)
Seat 9: rivermanl (28279 in chips)
mantasdino: posts the ante 175
jansen26: posts the ante 175
Belekaaaaaas: posts the ante 175
Mark_Port157: posts the ante 175
alex max 500: posts the ante 175
TheNilehorse: posts the ante 175
I love you71: posts the ante 175
rivermanl: posts the ante 175
I love you71: posts small blind 700
rivermanl: posts big blind 1400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Mark_Port157 [ ]
mantasdino: folds
jansen26: folds
Belekaaaaaas: folds
Mark_Port157: raises 1470 to 2870
alex max 500: folds
TheNilehorse: calls 2870 (BUTTON)
I love you71: calls 2170
rivermanl: folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
I love you71: checks
Mark_Port157: bets 4792
TheNilehorse: calls 4792
I love you71: calls 4792
*** TURN *** [ ] []
I love you71: checks
Mark_Port157:

Villain One is playing 30/16/1.6 over 60 hands. Not seen him get out of line or do anything to raise attention.

Villain Two is playing 43/7/0 over 20 hands. Splashing about since joining the table.

Not particularly worried about Villain two and fairly sure I have the best hand here the majority of the time. Bounties important here as villains should be gambling more to bust me as my bounty is probably the largest at the table. Stack sizes on the turn are awkward. We have 35K behind with 25K in the middle. We?

[shipitgood]

I would check the flop, we are getting at least one call here so often. On the turn, I would prob check here and see what player 3 does. We can just fold if the action is heavy, depending on the action. If 3rd player checks, see what the river brings / 1st player does. If betting the turn, fold to any raise. If we bet the turn and lose the 3rd player it makes it a bit easier otr if other player just calls.

[UgotNuts]

As played I think I check the turn here and call a bet and feel out the river. Would also be checking the river to the button and folding to a bet on any scary cards.

I think its such a wet board that C betting the flop might be a bit ambitious. Heads Up I think it is okay, but as Shipitgood said, your getting called like 90% of the time.

[Mark_Porter]

Are we checking the turn in the hope to get to showdown cheaply? Feels like we are going to be ahead now a lot aren't we? Lots of rivers kill us though.

Agree c betting was a tad optimistic but except the button to play relatively straight forward and out of position passive guy to give us value. Two overs and backdoors too.

If we had 10K less than we can just jam the turn as played?

[Oxford_HRV]

yeah its a check flop for me, you can probably c/r flop profitably. think villain(s) will bet fold a good chunk.. i'd think you should treat your hand as nothing but a c/f on the turn, if you get a free river you may have a bluff catcher, although I dont see myself with 7x or 2p and going for value.

[UgotNuts]

Are we checking the turn in the hope to get to showdown cheaply? Feels like we are going to be ahead now a lot aren't we? Lots of rivers kill us though.

Agree c betting was a tad optimistic but except the button to play relatively straight forward and out of position passive guy to give us value. Two overs and backdoors too.

If we had 10K less than we can just jam the turn as played?

You could jam the turn and get folds when your ahead(getting little value out of your hand), but are almost dead when you are called.

By check calling you are picking all their bluffs and are not going bust when your behind. And if it gets checked behind on flop and river then you most likely win the pot anyway.

If you had 10K less you still have like 22BB and would be shoving the turn with 15BB which is okay I guess same outcome as above through. Would you consider folding QJ with 22BB preflop?

[Mark_Porter]

Would likely still open pre-flop off 22bbs down to 15bigs ish when would just jam.

Agree on checking the turn by the way. Screwed this hand up, annoying to grind for ages and then do something silly. Brain fatigue.

[UgotNuts]

Yeah it happens. Could of got away with it. Unlucky bud