Percentage situation

[aaron1867]

Fell out with a good friend about this, would like some thoughts about.

Player A and Player B have agreed to swap 10% in a tournament. It's £100 buyin and is expected to make around £20k, also has some added value of seats into a GUKPT events and a Unibet event. Nothing is talked of regarding bounties.

Player A doesn't cash but gets a £1k bounty seat.

Player B does nothing.

Should Player A give 10% of the seat to Player B? The event is in Copenhagen.

[Doobs]

Does the prize include flights and accommodation? 

[TightEnd]

Fell out with a good friend about this, would like some thoughts about.

Player A and Player B have agreed to swap 10% in a tournament. It's £100 buyin and is expected to make around £20k, also has some added value of seats into a GUKPT events and a Unibet event. Nothing is talked of regarding bounties.

Player A doesn't cash but gets a £1k bounty seat.

Player B does nothing.

Should Player A give 10% of the seat to Player B? The event is in Copenhagen.

i'd go to the citizens advice bureau. (joke)

i'd say no, a bounty is different to seats added and as unspecified there is no obligation for a percentage to carry across to copenhagen

[aaron1867]

Does the prize include flights and accommodation? 

Prize is just a seat for Unibet Open in Copenhagen.

Costs of Travel and accom came between £500-£600.

[JohnCharver]

good friend...

[Marky147]

Wouldn't be letting them sort out any travel arrangements on trips

[BorntoBubble]

I wouldn't expect any bounty money to be carried over although I would always honour it to someone I have swapped with.

[Eso Kral]

I wouldn't expect any bounty money to be carried over although I would always honour it to someone I have swapped with.

I would do this ^^ but think these things should be discussed at the point of swapping or in the OP of a staking thread to avoid this happening.

[GreekStein]

Couldn't imagine falling out with a friend about this. How does that happen?

[Simon Galloway]

Player A should insist that PLayer B gets 10% of Copenhagen.

Player B should insist that Player A gets 10% of travel/hotel covered.

That's how friends do it.

[Honeybadger]

Player A should insist that PLayer B gets 10% of Copenhagen.

Player B should insist that Player A gets 10% of travel/hotel covered.

That's how friends do it.

Spot on.

[Doobs]

Player A should insist that PLayer B gets 10% of Copenhagen.

Player B should insist that Player A gets 10% of travel/hotel covered.

That's how friends do it.

Spot on.

This for me too.  10% of the prize money without paying 10% of reasonable expenses seems wrong.  Obv don't need to pay beer and massages.  Even on day 3.

[aaron1867]

Couldn't imagine falling out with a friend about this. How does that happen?

Could you not? If one player thinks he is being cut short, then it's surely a potential problem

Player A should insist that PLayer B gets 10% of Copenhagen.

Player B should insist that Player A gets 10% of travel/hotel covered.

That's how friends do it.

Player B assumes after event that he has 10% of seat anyway and look foward to the rail.

Player A and B discuss the matter in which A says to B that he indeed does not have 10% as it was not discussed.

Player B asks for opinion of a reputable name in poker who suggests the above and Player B offers 10% of costs.

Player A still says that he isn't giving away 10%.

[Honeybadger]

Player A is one of those 'EV boys' I guess. Like the guys who cash big in Vegas and try to sell their dollars to friends for a vig etc.

I am pretty sure he will never be convinced that he is wrong. As far as he is concerned it was never discussed and so 'by the letter of the law' he is not obliged to give up the 10%. Short-sighted and completely classless, but there are a lot out there in the gambling world just like him unfortunately.

[MC]

[ne player thinks he is being cut short, then it's surely a potential problem
Player B assumes after event that he has 10% of seat anyway and look foward to the rail.

Player A and B discuss the matter in which A says to B that he indeed does not have 10% as it was not discussed.

Player B asks for opinion of a reputable name in poker who suggests the above and Player B offers 10% of costs.

Player A still says that he isn't giving away 10%.

Player A is clearly a knob