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« on: June 23, 2015, 01:18:53 AM »

$2/5 vegas Aria
We have KK and there is an open to 15 in front of us from an older guy who seems kinda nitty, pretty sensible.
We 3bt to 35 seeing as I haven't 3bt yet at the table and have no idea how this will be perceived, effectively this should just narrow it from potentially 5 ways to probably 3 or hu.

Get a peel behind from button older Asian guy who seems to be after me (I haven't done or said anything ool).  And the OR calls.

Flop
check, we cbet 50, call, call

Turn

check, I bet 125, button raises to 275, other guy effectively goes all in for 280.

It's 150 to us with KK 3 ways on J104Qdd.

What do we do now?
We have around 600 back if we call, other guy covers.


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We open AA over two limpers to 30, folds back and both call.

Flop
K8K
Checks to me and I check back

Turn J brings two clubs
first older guy checks and second guy bets 50, we call, fold behind.

River 8 brings back door clubs
Guy quickly bets 100 and we fold after a few seconds thinking...

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We open fir 20 on the button and get a call from bb and a limp call from one of the previous older guys...

Flop
three clubs
checks to me and I bet 35, two calls...

Turn


Checks to me and I check back.

River

Bet of 25 into 170ish ftom the blind and im sure he would go bigger with a flush, older guy hesitates then calls, i make it 80 with a plan to fold to a raise, but I'm certain I can get calls from worse.

Both call, I beat BB but older guy has 86dd..



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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2015, 02:50:06 AM »

3bet to 55 in hand one, don't really see a reason to make it 35, definitely bigger than that. Definitely bet bigger on the flop, your sizing seems really small, lots out there that continues. 75 or 85 seem good. Turn bet seems very ambitious, you block most of the hands you want to get value from, check/decide seems best.

As played call now ofc with the price. Lead river for 125 if its a 9/A, folding if he shoves on a 9.

Hand 2 I make a somewhat exploitable raise to 135 here, happy to get some value and fold if raised on. Can bet some rivers depending on how it runs out and get immediate value from draws. Might size it differently, maybe a touch bigger. Bigger we go the more rivers we have to check though, although being live can probably bet 135 on the two spades and be fairly happy even if we go bigger on the turn.
River obv a snap fold as played.

Hand 3 is somewhat close but seems fine with reads. If you dont ever cut yourself your probably betting too thin.
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2015, 03:17:39 AM »

Bigger hand one, 50 preflop and bigger on flop, pot is 110 and you bet 50 on JT4 with a flush draw, there's not much that calls for 50 that would fold for 80, 50 would be fine on T42r but not on this really wet board that hits both of them.
Turn it's gone 3 ways, you have been raised by someone in Vegas who has cold called a 3bet and the board is QJT, you have the right price to call but it's not a great spot. Prefer check folding turn to anything else. The population isn't going to bet KJ, AJ, KQ or AQ from experience and KK blocks a lot of the KQ KJ KT you are supposed to get value from. Obviously lead river small if you get there and check fold if you don't.

Hand 2 is annoying and depends entirely on how the guy has been playing, I tend to call these a lot, only need to be good 1/3 and "I didn't think you had the King". Something to consider is raising turn and checking back the flush/J and to get value from Jacks/pairs and all sorts of flush and broadway draws that won't fold, again depends on if the guy stabs at pots and if he does can call turn and call river

Hand 3 nice hand i'd play the same. Vs unknowns and weaker players it's a nice sizing on flop with particular hand, can even go as small as 20. If you have QJ+ or A3 T8 QT AK AQ KQ KTdd can bet anything from 50-100. If we are in a game together at any point take note of my sizings vs identified weaker players, you will be able to start naming my hole cards before showdown, Nick says nice hand or "oops" when opponents call my river bets now lol.

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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2015, 03:53:12 AM »

Just asked Aaron what he would do in these hands and he said without any prompting or suggestions, 50 preflop 80 on the flop check fold the turn. "It's the most straight forward easiest hand of all time" lol
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2015, 10:27:51 AM »

don't bother with the small bets in live cash games, if you wanna bet it, bet it like a man 

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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2015, 10:29:53 AM »

I think I'd actually raise more in hand 3 lol I like it.

Hand 1 is actually the worst turn card ever (for our actual hand) smashes both of them hard in the face and like adam says KJ and KQ and the hands we reallly want to play and obviously we've removed half the kings from the deck
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2015, 12:40:22 PM »

i mean you couuuuuld triple kk as a bluff in hand 1 depending on stack sizes, but perhaps a little ambitious. pre wayyyyy too small. especially with your image, they will never believe you.

hand 2 i prob bet flop.

hand 3 seems wp.  bit bigger otr maybe.

don't over complicate it, big hand = big bets
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2015, 07:57:08 PM »

Thanks for the comments boys, I agree with most to be honest....

That however doesn't stop
Hand 1 - both have AK.
hand 2 - guy has K10
hand 3 - already revealed, we cut ourselves vs a flush.

This is literally the tip of the iceberg for me in vegas.... It was started by KK vs AA on literally my first cash hand.


#vegas2015

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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2015, 10:41:17 AM »

This is like when a guy comes up to you in the smoking area who you kinda know. He toddles up and asks how you've been doing, what's going on tonight. As soon as the words, "yeah, not bad mate" leave your mouth, our newly found friend starts to regale  you with a wonderful tale of drama and excitement which starts with a "what would you do here". 17 minutes later, having discussed the finer points of why not to limp 54o in mp, with 15 big blinds, do you find out  he got two pair in on the turn and lost. The red feelings of fury begins to build up inside. All your friendly discussion was just a Trojan horse for a bad beat story. You fling the remainder of your now slightly cooler than luke warm tea at him and drop your cigarette butt into his pint. "What a bellend" you exclaim internally, he didn't even listen to my advice as you stride back into the generic northern casino. All that faux interest in my life, just to tell a bad beat. Why would anyone do such a thing, you puzzle...
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2015, 07:36:05 PM »

This is like when a guy comes up to you in the smoking area who you kinda know. He toddles up and asks how you've been doing, what's going on tonight. As soon as the words, "yeah, not bad mate" leave your mouth, our newly found friend starts to regale  you with a wonderful tale of drama and excitement which starts with a "what would you do here". 17 minutes later, having discussed the finer points of why not to limp 54o in mp, with 15 big blinds, do you find out  he got two pair in on the turn and lost. The red feelings of fury begins to build up inside. All your friendly discussion was just a Trojan horse for a bad beat story. You fling the remainder of your now slightly cooler than luke warm tea at him and drop your cigarette butt into his pint. "What a bellend" you exclaim internally, he didn't even listen to my advice as you stride back into the generic northern casino. All that faux interest in my life, just to tell a bad beat. Why would anyone do such a thing, you puzzle...



I swear to God, I've been on the wrong end of that scenario 100 times this trip.

 
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2015, 11:31:40 PM »

already revealed, we cut ourselves.

Chin up pal, it's not that bad
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