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Re: Devastating news , what would you do ?....Tunisia
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June 27, 2015, 08:18:27 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on June 27, 2015, 07:55:43 PM
Quote from: celtic on June 27, 2015, 07:42:26 PM
I probably would go too, no more riskier than this time last week.
Yeah, but as we now know, it was
very
risky last week.
We knew that last week tho, and the week before, and the week before etc
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Re: Devastating news , what would you do ?....Tunisia
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June 27, 2015, 08:35:41 PM »
Absolutely no chance
I quantify basically everything I do on some sort of scale be it risk or otherwise, consciously or subconsciously, and even a 10000/1 chance this could happen again over a 2 week period is not worth the risk for me. I couldn't enjoy myself and would be looking over my shoulder the whole time. Let alone leaving my family to worry about me for the time I was gone.
Hard to put numbers on it but it feels smaller than 10000/1 for a dangerous situation to arise.
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Re: Devastating news , what would you do ?....Tunisia
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June 27, 2015, 08:44:29 PM »
But surely the point is, if you booked knowing there was a risk, then that risk hasn't changed, and if it has changed, then it's changed for the better?
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June 27, 2015, 08:50:39 PM »
My feelings are......
We booked this in January and have been working hard to pay for it if I was to cancel I will get approximately £2800
We won't get all-inclusive anywhere for that for two weeks and we can't afford to pay anymore!
Now as much as you would all say can't put a price on life ...of course I can't.
My kids 11-15-16 have seen the news and still want to go desperately
If we didn't go anywhere anything bad has ever happened we wouldn't go anywhere
The chances of something else happening are slim (imo)
The chances of us being in the wrong place at the wrong time .....slim
Just my thoughts
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Re: Devastating news , what would you do ?....Tunisia
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June 27, 2015, 08:53:36 PM »
Quote from: LonOhRay on June 27, 2015, 08:35:41 PM
Absolutely no chance
I quantify basically everything I do on some sort of scale be it risk or otherwise, consciously or subconsciously, and even a 10000/1 chance this could happen again over a 2 week period is not worth the risk for me. I couldn't enjoy myself and would be looking over my shoulder the whole time. Let alone leaving my family to worry about me for the time I was gone.
Hard to put numbers on it but it feels smaller than 10000/1 for a dangerous situation to arise.
I would say anyone who likes a drink is a lot less than 10000/1 to get in a dangerous situation in Las Vegas.
Probably well shorter than 1000/1 to be frank.
2 of my friends have got in very dangerous spots there independently.
In fact, one of them was probably less than 10/1 to be coming home in a box at one point.
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Re: Devastating news , what would you do ?....Tunisia
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June 27, 2015, 08:54:54 PM »
A friend of mine was at the hotel next door by the pool when it happened. Last I heard (yesterday) is that they were trying to get a flight back today. I can understand why someone out there now would want to come home. But if you're going out there in a week or so - is the risk higher? If you think there might be subsequent attacks, then the risk would be higher than you previously thought was there. If you think it's unlikely, and that there'll be lots of armed security in place now, then it's probably a lot safer. Also less likely to be hassled or pick-pocketed, etc.!
The question is, if you don't go to Tunisia, because of the risk then where do you choose to go? There 'could' be a terrorist attack in Bali, Spain, Turkey, London or anywhere in the next few weeks. But it's hard to make a rational decision at a time like this. There was a big crash on the M40 the other day, does that mean I should avoid the M40 for the next few months? The risk is the same now as it was last week, and the risk of being in a car crash is probably higher than being caught in a terrorist attack by a factor of hundreds or thousands. Yet, we continue to drive our cars, cross the road, get out of bed in the morning.
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Re: Devastating news , what would you do ?....Tunisia
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June 27, 2015, 08:56:00 PM »
Quote from: leethefish on June 27, 2015, 08:50:39 PM
My feelings are......
We booked this in January and have been working hard to pay for it if I was to cancel I will get approximately £2800
We won't get all-inclusive anywhere for that for two weeks and we can't afford to pay anymore!
Now as much as you would all say can't put a price on life ...of course I can't.
My kids 11-15-16 have seen the news and still want to go desperately
If we didn't go anywhere anything bad has ever happened we wouldn't go anywhere
The chances of something else happening are slim (imo)
The chances of us being in the wrong place at the wrong time .....slim
Just my thoughts
Is that a full refund?
If it is, you should think about cancelling and rebooking.
Sure there will some extremely cheap offers available for the next few months.
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Re: Devastating news , what would you do ?....Tunisia
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June 27, 2015, 08:56:37 PM »
Quote from: kinboshi on June 27, 2015, 08:54:54 PM
A friend of mine was at the hotel next door by the pool when it happened. Last I heard (yesterday) is that they were trying to get a flight back today. I can understand why someone out there now would want to come home. But if you're going out there in a week or so - is the risk higher? If you think there might be subsequent attacks, then the risk would be higher than you previously thought was there. If you think it's unlikely, and that there'll be lots of armed security in place now, then it's probably a lot safer. Also less likely to be hassled or pick-pocketed, etc.!
The question is, if you don't go to Tunisia, because of the risk then where do you choose to go? There 'could' be a terrorist attack in Bali, Spain, Turkey, London or anywhere in the next few weeks. But it's hard to make a rational decision at a time like this. There was a big crash on the M40 the other day, does that mean I should avoid the M40 for the next few months? The risk is the same now as it was last week, and the risk of being in a car crash is probably higher than being caught in a terrorist attack by a factor of hundreds or thousands. Yet, we continue to drive our cars, cross the road, get out of bed in the morning.
Good points boshi
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Re: Devastating news , what would you do ?....Tunisia
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June 27, 2015, 08:57:48 PM »
Quote from: The Camel on June 27, 2015, 08:56:00 PM
Quote from: leethefish on June 27, 2015, 08:50:39 PM
My feelings are......
We booked this in January and have been working hard to pay for it if I was to cancel I will get approximately £2800
We won't get all-inclusive anywhere for that for two weeks and we can't afford to pay anymore!
Now as much as you would all say can't put a price on life ...of course I can't.
My kids 11-15-16 have seen the news and still want to go desperately
If we didn't go anywhere anything bad has ever happened we wouldn't go anywhere
The chances of something else happening are slim (imo)
The chances of us being in the wrong place at the wrong time .....slim
Just my thoughts
Is that a full refund?
If it is, you should think about cancelling and rebooking.
Sure there will some extremely cheap offers available for the next few months.
Good point
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June 27, 2015, 09:02:33 PM »
Quote from: celtic on June 27, 2015, 08:44:29 PM
But surely the point is, if you booked knowing there was a risk, then that risk hasn't changed, and if it has changed, then it's changed for the better?
Also true if you were aware of the previous attacks and unrest. I was looking for a cheap short haul holiday for a week leaving the next day or within the week a month ago, I could have gone to any number of Tunisian hotels for £230pp all inclusive but I never considered it.
If you could get a refund on this one and weren't put off by another attack I'm sure prices will drop even more if any UK travel agents offer them.
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Re: Devastating news , what would you do ?....Tunisia
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June 27, 2015, 09:11:51 PM »
Think for me it'd be peace of mind. I think it's probably safer to go now then at any other time but can see myself being able to relax and would probably be super paranoid. Also if something did happen with the recent history I don't think I'd ever be able to get over it
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Re: Devastating news , what would you do ?....Tunisia
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June 27, 2015, 09:14:30 PM »
Quote from: George2Loose on June 27, 2015, 09:11:51 PM
Think for me it'd be peace of mind. I think it's probably safer to go now then at any other time but can see myself being able to relax and would probably be super paranoid. Also if something did happen with the recent history I don't think I'd ever be able to get over it
This about sums it up for me.
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Re: Devastating news , what would you do ?....Tunisia
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June 27, 2015, 09:14:54 PM »
Also true about Vegas, I've been in some unfavourable situations too. The same can be said about drinking in any nightclub in England or walking down the wrong street at night.
If you have drunk you willingly altered your state of mind and changed actions/behaviour putting yourself at risk somewhat. - Obviously nobody is going to not drink or enjoy theirselves because of potential risk in Vegas until something serious happens to them or friends. They might not plan to drink a bottle of Vodka and 10 beers in Iran because it's a different scenario and their perceived risk is a lot higher.
If there is a terrorist attack there is next to nothing you can do about it and there is a high chance you will die if caught up in it, that is without drinking or waving an anti Islamic banner, it's just by being in the country.
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June 27, 2015, 11:26:28 PM »
In Vegas, you stick to the strip, the canopy and Peppermints and you'll be very safe, by any city's standards. </derail>
For Tunisia, I'd take my refund tyvm.
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Re: Devastating news , what would you do ?....Tunisia
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June 28, 2015, 12:19:49 AM »
Quote from: Simon Galloway on June 27, 2015, 11:26:28 PM
In Vegas, you stick to the strip, the canopy and Peppermints and you'll be very safe, by any city's standards. </derail>
For Tunisia, I'd take my refund tyvm.
Both incidents I was refering to started off with a *chance* encounter with a female on the strip.
They were quickly led far away from the safe confines.
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