Nadal / Woods / Neither ?

[tikay]

Well yes, his downfall was self-inflicted, & the public are usually very unforgiving in these things.

Generally though, most people are essentially decent, & I think we all love a great comeback, when someone overcomes huge adversity.

The public adore him too. He's a black American, the Masters is held in Georgia of all places, & the galleries were almost exclusively white. Great stuff.



 

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I think you’ll find mixed race is the correct PC terminology 

Honest to God, I have no idea what we are supposed to say these days, folks can take offence at anything.

It was, for most of my life, acceptable to describe people simply as blacks or whites. About 10 years ago, in a Live Update, Maria Demetriou chided me for using "black", she said "coloured" is correct. Or I might have that back to front, I have no idea.

Then "person of colour" became the thing.

Mixed race? I spent all my life describing that as "half-caste", & it never struck me there was anything wrong with that. Can't say that now though.

If that is confusing, it gets even worse with gender, of which, if I'm not mistaken, there are now 3 varieties.

[vegaslover]

Also shows just how much success at top level sport is mental.
He's gone from a distressed personal life and playing poorly/injured/disinterested to having sorted his shit out and back playing to his abilities again.

[Woodsey]

Well yes, his downfall was self-inflicted, & the public are usually very unforgiving in these things.

Generally though, most people are essentially decent, & I think we all love a great comeback, when someone overcomes huge adversity.

The public adore him too. He's a black American, the Masters is held in Georgia of all places, & the galleries were almost exclusively white. Great stuff.



 

Click to see full-size image.

I think you’ll find mixed race is the correct PC terminology 

Honest to God, I have no idea what we are supposed to say these days, folks can take offence at anything.

It was, for most of my life, acceptable to describe people simply as blacks or whites. About 10 years ago, in a Live Update, Maria Demetriou chided me for using "black", she said "coloured" is correct. Or I might have that back to front, I have no idea.

Then "person of colour" became the thing.

Mixed race? I spent all my life describing that as "half-caste", & it never struck me there was anything wrong with that. Can't say that now though.

If that is confusing, it gets even worse with gender, of which, if I'm not mistaken, there are now 3 varieties.

Haha, I honestly dont care was just joking. The last time I checked I wasnt even white 

[tikay]

Well yes, his downfall was self-inflicted, & the public are usually very unforgiving in these things.

Generally though, most people are essentially decent, & I think we all love a great comeback, when someone overcomes huge adversity.

The public adore him too. He's a black American, the Masters is held in Georgia of all places, & the galleries were almost exclusively white. Great stuff.



 

Click to see full-size image.

I think you’ll find mixed race is the correct PC terminology 

Honest to God, I have no idea what we are supposed to say these days, folks can take offence at anything.

It was, for most of my life, acceptable to describe people simply as blacks or whites. About 10 years ago, in a Live Update, Maria Demetriou chided me for using "black", she said "coloured" is correct. Or I might have that back to front, I have no idea.

Then "person of colour" became the thing.

Mixed race? I spent all my life describing that as "half-caste", & it never struck me there was anything wrong with that. Can't say that now though.

If that is confusing, it gets even worse with gender, of which, if I'm not mistaken, there are now 3 varieties.

Haha, I honestly dont care was just joking. The last time I checked I wasnt even white 

I know, but it's interesting, isn't it, how things change so?

[Marky147]

Well yes, his downfall was self-inflicted, & the public are usually very unforgiving in these things.

Generally though, most people are essentially decent, & I think we all love a great comeback, when someone overcomes huge adversity.

The public adore him too. He's a black American, the Masters is held in Georgia of all places, & the galleries were almost exclusively white. Great stuff.



 

Click to see full-size image.

I think you’ll find mixed race is the correct PC terminology  

Honest to God, I have no idea what we are supposed to say these days, folks can take offence at anything.

It was, for most of my life, acceptable to describe people simply as blacks or whites. About 10 years ago, in a Live Update, Maria Demetriou chided me for using "black", she said "coloured" is correct. Or I might have that back to front, I have no idea.

Then "person of colour" became the thing.

Mixed race? I spent all my life describing that as "half-caste", & it never struck me there was anything wrong with that. Can't say that now though.

If that is confusing, it gets even worse with gender, of which, if I'm not mistaken, there are now 3 varieties.

Think I saw an article somewhere saying there is over 60, just madness.

Funny thing I saw on Rogan was a guy trolling all this bs. He identified as a woman for a minute, while he broke the women's deadlift record

[Doobs]

Well yes, his downfall was self-inflicted, & the public are usually very unforgiving in these things.

Generally though, most people are essentially decent, & I think we all love a great comeback, when someone overcomes huge adversity.

The public adore him too. He's a black American, the Masters is held in Georgia of all places, & the galleries were almost exclusively white. Great stuff.



 

Click to see full-size image.

I think you’ll find mixed race is the correct PC terminology 

Honest to God, I have no idea what we are supposed to say these days, folks can take offence at anything.

It was, for most of my life, acceptable to describe people simply as blacks or whites. About 10 years ago, in a Live Update, Maria Demetriou chided me for using "black", she said "coloured" is correct. Or I might have that back to front, I have no idea.

Then "person of colour" became the thing.

Mixed race? I spent all my life describing that as "half-caste", & it never struck me there was anything wrong with that. Can't say that now though.

If that is confusing, it gets even worse with gender, of which, if I'm not mistaken, there are now 3 varieties.

Half-caste is offensive because it suggests that you are only half pure.  Mixed race is fine, though we had an arguement here the other day where someone suggested mixed heritage is better. 

If Tiger Woods says he is black, it is fine to call him that, but he is a very mixed bag.  People see themselves differently.  I get your point earlier, My memory is terrible, but I think when he first started playing there, it was all-white membership at Augusta.  I am pretty sure it has changed in my lifetime, which can only be a good thing.

[tikay]

Well yes, his downfall was self-inflicted, & the public are usually very unforgiving in these things.

Generally though, most people are essentially decent, & I think we all love a great comeback, when someone overcomes huge adversity.

The public adore him too. He's a black American, the Masters is held in Georgia of all places, & the galleries were almost exclusively white. Great stuff.



 

Click to see full-size image.

I think you’ll find mixed race is the correct PC terminology  

Honest to God, I have no idea what we are supposed to say these days, folks can take offence at anything.

It was, for most of my life, acceptable to describe people simply as blacks or whites. About 10 years ago, in a Live Update, Maria Demetriou chided me for using "black", she said "coloured" is correct. Or I might have that back to front, I have no idea.

Then "person of colour" became the thing.

Mixed race? I spent all my life describing that as "half-caste", & it never struck me there was anything wrong with that. Can't say that now though.

If that is confusing, it gets even worse with gender, of which, if I'm not mistaken, there are now 3 varieties.

Half-caste is offensive because it suggests that you are only half pure.  Mixed race is fine, though we had an arguement here the other day where someone suggested mixed heritage is better.  

If Tiger Woods says he is black, it is fine to call him that, but he is a very mixed bag.  People see themselves differently.  I get your point earlier, My memory is terrible, but I think when he first started playing there, it was all-white membership at Augusta.  I am pretty sure it has changed in my lifetime, which can only be a good thing.

Half-caste may have been offensive, but it was the standard terminology not long ago. Certainly no offence was intended by those who described it like that & I very much doubt many, if any, realised it meant "half pure".  

As to Augusta National, this is what Wiki tell us;


The club long held racist and sexist policies: Augusta National had no African American members until 1990 and women until 2012. The club, which long required all caddies to be black, barred black golfers from the Masters Tournament until Lee Elder participated in 1975. In 1997, Tiger Woods became the first person of color to win the tournament; Vijay Singh later became the second.


Thankfully all that's in the rear-view mirror now. Interesting context though.
 

[Doobs]

Well yes, his downfall was self-inflicted, & the public are usually very unforgiving in these things.

Generally though, most people are essentially decent, & I think we all love a great comeback, when someone overcomes huge adversity.

The public adore him too. He's a black American, the Masters is held in Georgia of all places, & the galleries were almost exclusively white. Great stuff.



 

Click to see full-size image.

I think you’ll find mixed race is the correct PC terminology  

Honest to God, I have no idea what we are supposed to say these days, folks can take offence at anything.

It was, for most of my life, acceptable to describe people simply as blacks or whites. About 10 years ago, in a Live Update, Maria Demetriou chided me for using "black", she said "coloured" is correct. Or I might have that back to front, I have no idea.

Then "person of colour" became the thing.

Mixed race? I spent all my life describing that as "half-caste", & it never struck me there was anything wrong with that. Can't say that now though.

If that is confusing, it gets even worse with gender, of which, if I'm not mistaken, there are now 3 varieties.

Half-caste is offensive because it suggests that you are only half pure.  Mixed race is fine, though we had an arguement here the other day where someone suggested mixed heritage is better.  

If Tiger Woods says he is black, it is fine to call him that, but he is a very mixed bag.  People see themselves differently.  I get your point earlier, My memory is terrible, but I think when he first started playing there, it was all-white membership at Augusta.  I am pretty sure it has changed in my lifetime, which can only be a good thing.

Half-caste may have been offensive, but it was the standard terminology not long ago. Certainly no offence was intended by those who described it like that & I very much doubt many, if any, realised it meant "half pure".  

As to Augusta National, this is what Wiki tell us;


The club long held racist and sexist policies: Augusta National had no African American members until 1990 and women until 2012. The club, which long required all caddies to be black, barred black golfers from the Masters Tournament until Lee Elder participated in 1975. In 1997, Tiger Woods became the first person of color to win the tournament; Vijay Singh later became the second.


Thankfully all that's in the rear-view mirror now. Interesting context though.
 

No women until 2012 is pretty sad, but I am sure there are a fair few clubs where women still have second class membership.  It seems mad these days. 

Even in that sentence you can see the differences; I am sure that African American is better than black in the US, and they use person of colour much more than we do.

Not long ago must be different when you are 96.   I am sure I used half-caste until the 80s, not sure after that.

You sorted your schedule out yet?  Robbie tickets booked?   

[Karabiner]

Well yes, his downfall was self-inflicted, & the public are usually very unforgiving in these things.

Generally though, most people are essentially decent, & I think we all love a great comeback, when someone overcomes huge adversity.

The public adore him too. He's a black American, the Masters is held in Georgia of all places, & the galleries were almost exclusively white. Great stuff.



 

Click to see full-size image.

I think you’ll find mixed race is the correct PC terminology 

Honest to God, I have no idea what we are supposed to say these days, folks can take offence at anything.

It was, for most of my life, acceptable to describe people simply as blacks or whites. About 10 years ago, in a Live Update, Maria Demetriou chided me for using "black", she said "coloured" is correct. Or I might have that back to front, I have no idea.

Then "person of colour" became the thing.

Mixed race? I spent all my life describing that as "half-caste", & it never struck me there was anything wrong with that. Can't say that now though.

If that is confusing, it gets even worse with gender, of which, if I'm not mistaken, there are now 3 varieties.

Half-caste is offensive because it suggests that you are only half pure.  Mixed race is fine, though we had an arguement here the other day where someone suggested mixed heritage is better. 

If Tiger Woods says he is black, it is fine to call him that, but he is a very mixed bag.  People see themselves differently.  I get your point earlier, My memory is terrible, but I think when he first started playing there, it was all-white membership at Augusta.  I am pretty sure it has changed in my lifetime, which can only be a good thing.

I think Condoleezza Rice became the first lady-member(PC?) of Augusta GC, not sure if she was also the first black member or not.

[Pokerpops]

Hard to believe this was less than 2 years ago;

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He seems to have identified himself as Black at this point.

Out of interest, what Race are you?
I’ll stick with Human I think.

[Woodsey]

Well I learn’t a new word as a result of the last page or two........Cablinasian

In any event, the whole thing has given me a reason to like Tiger the first time in a very long time. Yes he can actually smile and show some positive emotion, whatever happens next I’m really pleased that his kids got to see their dad being the legend he genuinely was/is 

[TightEnd]

A very rare SI cover with no writing, reserved for very special sporting moments

Expect Nike to use the silhouette of this image widely much like they did with the Air Jordan one years ago

[Juperjiper]

He’s still going

[arbboy]

Who said 'drugs don't work'?

[Karabiner]

Who said 'drugs don't work'?

The Verve