Negreanu, the man and the conundrum

[Doobs]

Daniel Negreanu ‏@RealKidPoker  11h11 hours ago
Just folded AK preflop something I should have done in 2001 when I came 11th. I was a kid then and not ready to win then. I am ready now…




was 15 left against joe mcheehan the chip leader who I've played against and is pretty crazy lol

Was 16 left according to the tweet before and he had him covered.  Seems a bad fold, but maybe he got a read or hadn't had enough time to realise the other fella is a loon.

Did AK vs AA vs KK Sunday on Sky FWIW.  Definitely had less than 20 BBs. #notDanny.

[MintTrav]

Very likeable and entertaining. And makes plenty of interesting points for the good of rec players and, consequently, sustaining the poker industry.

It is spoiled for me, though, by his nasty streak. His vendetta against Annie Duke went on for ever, telling everyone again and again and again and again and again how terrible she is. Maybe she is for all I know, but that seemed way over the top, especially when contrasted with an apparently dignified silence from the other side. She only really complained when he called her a "fucking c unt" in a mainstream interview.

And his response to the Lederer situation was a disgrace, inciting violence via YouTube. Has everyone forgotten that?

[GreekStein]

and yet for many on here he is derided as a ruthless self-publicist and a hypocrite

Huge huge over exaggeration.

I'd say over 95% of people were funking for him.

[kp24]

Think it would have been great for game if he had got the final table could have done so much for game especially in the U.S. Always looks like he's having fun at the table and has the games best interest at heart if sometimes misguided

[arbboy]

and yet for many on here he is derided as a ruthless self-publicist and a hypocrite

Huge huge over exaggeration.

I'd say over 95% of people were funking for him.

If you like making money out of poker then you want DN on the final 9 as it draws millions to watch and play the game imo.   If you care more about whether DN is a C**t then maybe you would prefer him not to be.  The bottom line is he gets paid fortunes to kiss ar*e and sell the game globally.  Stars take care of that.  There is a lot of jealously in the game and any game but everyone is a loser imo by him not being part of the nov 9.  9 nobodys (who might be internet pros but no casuals who do their money to the industry will care less so the viewing figures wont be there).

[I KNOW IT]

Daniel N in the late 90's early 2000's is a different person to he is now . He has learned to play the game of life to succeed in the corporate world, sadly that is the way of the world nowadays
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Some cant except that is the way it is maybe because they remember him from the early days I dont know,

I definately think he is good for the game and would like to have seen him on the final table.

People can change, Camel for example used to be great fun in the old days who I used to love to have a drink with but now seems to be a cynical old bugger. lol

[UgotNuts]

Not sure Daniel making the November 9 will have an effect on people who don't play the game. I asked around the office if anyone knew who is was and no one had any idea. If your just a slot machine or a house games player and not a poker player, what draws you to the game is the amount of money that can be won not who is winning the money on the TV tables.

Once you get into the game its different you have your poker hero's ect and it might make you pump some more money into the system if they make the Nov 9 because you want to follow in there footsteps. The reason the Mr MoneyMaker created a boom was because he was a nobody who won it all, when people heard about it they wanted to do it too. Having a Pro win it doesn't have the same effect.

[SuuPRlim]

Very likeable and entertaining. And makes plenty of interesting points for the good of rec players and, consequently, sustaining the poker industry.

It is spoiled for me, though, by his nasty streak. His vendetta against Annie Duke went on for ever, telling everyone again and again and again and again and again how terrible she is. Maybe she is for all I know, but that seemed way over the top, especially when contrasted with an apparently dignified silence from the other side. She only really complained when he called her a "fucking c unt" in a mainstream interview.

And his response to the Lederer situation was a disgrace, inciting violence via YouTube. Has everyone forgotten that?

TBF to DN, his long standing tirade against Annie Duke, claiming she was a cheat/fraud/no-good turned out to be absolutely true, she co-created the "Epic Poker League" which turned out to be a huge con...

Agree, the insinuation that it would be acceptable to hit HL with a baseball bat was really really stupid from a guy in a position of as much power and influence over as many disgruntled people as he was. (still is, just the people are now less disgruntled lol)

[nirvana]

Not sure Daniel making the November 9 will have an effect on people who don't play the game. I asked around the office if anyone knew who is was and no one had any idea. If your just a slot machine or a house games player and not a poker player, what draws you to the game is the amount of money that can be won not who is winning the money on the TV tables.

Once you get into the game its different you have your poker hero's ect and it might make you pump some more money into the system if they make the Nov 9 because you want to follow in there footsteps. The reason the Mr MoneyMaker created a boom was because he was a nobody who won it all, when people heard about it they wanted to do it too. Having a Pro win it doesn't have the same effect.

I make you right in all aspects here. Poker remains a zero sum game that can only eat itself

[rfgqqabc]

He's a bellend and I wish he'd made it because there was a chance of a small boom, virtually 0% but maybe. It would have been nice to see him promote poker and do some good for the game instead of telling me rake increases are good for me.

[Doobs]

He's a bellend and I wish he'd made it because there was a chance of a small boom, virtually 0% but maybe. It would have been nice to see him promote poker and do some good for the game instead of telling me rake increases are good for me.

You really believe this?  You may think he is a bellend, but he certainly promotes poker and it is hard to argue he doesn't do some good for the game.  And as far as I remember he did listen to the complaints on the rake issue, said he would speak to stars and Stars backed down.

Sure he can be irritating and sometimes says some things that are in his own interest, but implying he doesn't do enough to promote poker is ludicrous.   

[BigAdz]

I think he is ok.

Yes, he can come across a bit of an over excited geek at times, and probably does only have his own best interests at heart. I can live with that.

But as a non pro, I would rather play, and lose, to him, than an Ivey, who would probably say nothing, and make the experience nowhere near the fun that DN would try and make it.

As others have said, my interest immediately waned at hearing of his exit.

[RED-DOG]

I like him.

[bobAlike]

I like him.

Is that an irrational like?

[MANTIS01]

I like him too and encouraging people to bat Howard Lederer is ok. However something I cannot tolerate is his hair, totally unacceptable.