Negreanu, the man and the conundrum

[TightEnd]

Brad Willis wrote this after he exited the main in 11th

"Been a long time since I’ve seen someone so wildly adored as RealKidPoker was here tonight."



http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/en/blog/tournaments/wsop/2015/wsop-2015-daniel-negreanu-just-misses-no-156845.shtml

it contains the opening line

"I have seen crowd favorites. I have seen them all over the world. I have seen hometown heroes, superstars, and Cinderella stories. I have seen crowds rally around a person for no reason other than it felt like the right thing to do at the time. I thought I had seen it all.

I have never see any person receive the kind of support Daniel Negreanu got here tonight. "

and yet for many on here he is derided as a ruthless self-publicist and a hypocrite

in the light of the events of the last 48 hours, and the likely impact a november nine appearance would have had on the industry, it is time to change that view

Discuss

[DungBeetle]

I have to say I've always liked him.   I'm sure he's a self publicist and indeed ruthless but give me him over the online player to watch any day of the week.  I think he adds value to the viewing experience.

[jakally]

and yet for many on here he is derided as a ruthless self-publicist and a hypocrite

I think that's massively overstating the situation, Rich.
Keith, obviously, and maybe a handful who may be vocal on the subject, but I would be surprised if a large majority weren't rooting for him to make the Nine.

[Young_gun]

Big shame it would have been amazing if he made the final 9, as someone pointed out on another thread possibly Eso?? the fact he is always friendly and chatty on tables & i personally think he is a great ambassador for poker, opinionated so what

obviously needed the least from the final 27 players but still would have been fun to watch, only last night Neil Channing said on sky how he kind of got him involved when he was the new kid on the block.

[Doobs]

Brad Willis wrote this after he exited the main in 11th

"Been a long time since I’ve seen someone so wildly adored as RealKidPoker was here tonight."



http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/en/blog/tournaments/wsop/2015/wsop-2015-daniel-negreanu-just-misses-no-156845.shtml

it contains the opening line

"I have seen crowd favorites. I have seen them all over the world. I have seen hometown heroes, superstars, and Cinderella stories. I have seen crowds rally around a person for no reason other than it felt like the right thing to do at the time. I thought I had seen it all.

I have never see any person receive the kind of support Daniel Negreanu got here tonight. "

and yet for one person on here he is derided as a ruthless self-publicist and a hypocrite

in the light of the events of the last 48 hours, and the likely impact a november nine appearance would have had on the industry, it is time to change that view

Discuss

FYP

I do think it would have been good for the game if he had made a November 9 appearence, I also think stealthmunk would have been very good too, despite all the downside.

Pierre Neuville will be good for the game tho, and good to see another oldie at the table too.

I am just happy I can get the money off betfair that was backing the Negreanu lay.  Hardest 40 odd quid I have ever made on the exchange.

[AndrewT]

I think there are three reasons why the crowd were so pro-Negreanu

• To the casual observer, he would come across as one of the non-obnoxious ones of the TV pros - there's no tantrums and bad-boy antics of a Hellmuth or Matusow, but he doesn't just sit there and say nothing like the younger internet-turned-TV pros. So in that sense he would be likeable
  
• None of the other names with wider profiles got anywhere near the FT
  
• They were all trolling The Camel

[Steve Swift]

So disappointed,  he makes watching poker entertaining the moment he went out I shut down the website as I had no further interest and I'll bet I wasn't that I was not alone.  Nov 9 would have been a big event for me and now I doubt I will even look up.

[Woodsey]

Like the guy, comes across as very personable and he's very good for the game imo.

[pleno1]

somebody told me stars pros get 2x their prize if they make ft of wsop main.

negreanu 4b/folded ak with 13 left i think.

pretty crazy.

[UgotNuts]

He seems okay as a person I guess

I'm always conservative about making decisions on people who I only see in the media. Until you actually get to know someone its impossible to make a judgement.

Definitely good for promoting the game, even if it might be for personal reasons.   uess we will never know the impact him making the November 9 will have.

[Doobs]

somebody told me stars pros get 2x their prize if they make ft of wsop main.

negreanu 4b/folded ak with 13 left i think.

pretty crazy.

Don't know about the rest, but he was surely too short with 13 left to 4b/fold?   I think he had less than 20 BBs.  Was it earlier?  There must have been a few left in the last 18 (say) who you would fold AK too?  The pay jumps were severe until the FT and ICM would make moves that were normally standard into disastrous ones?

[arbboy]

So disappointed,  he makes watching poker entertaining the moment he went out I shut down the website as I had no further interest and I'll bet I wasn't that I was not alone.  Nov 9 would have been a big event for me and now I doubt I will even look up.

ESPN must be gutted for viewing figures for the final 9.  No idea about how much of an impact DN busting will have but it must be a huge factor in viewing figures now to the vast majority of casual viewers there are no 'faces' on the FT.    I don't get the hate for the guy.  Course he is looking out for his own back when he promotes poker.  When he says it is good for the game then obviously that means by it's very nature it is good for him as well.  That goes without saying.  Doesn't the game need someone like him though to promote it in the style he does and be corporate and say the right things?  Maybe it doesn't.

[pleno1]

Daniel Negreanu ‏@RealKidPoker  11h11 hours ago
Just folded AK preflop something I should have done in 2001 when I came 11th. I was a kid then and not ready to win then. I am ready now…




was 15 left against joe mcheehan the chip leader who I've played against and is pretty crazy lol

[SuuPRlim]

Only the Camel really hates him on here, not sure exactly why, sure he has a fine reason

He's funny, friendly, engaging, makes time for everyone at poker tournaments, classy winner, graceful loser, and a great ambassador for poker (imo) obviously he gets paid absolute chunks for being so (closer to 8 figures than 7 his stars deal I hear...) but he's great at his job, so yeah absolutely cannot begrudge him getting the lot for it.

I actually felt so sorry for him (I know!) this year, financially it prolly means less to him than the other 11, but whatever you say about him, shameless self publicist, annoying, wonderful for the game w/e he has devoted his life to poker and you could see in his eyes that this just meant the world to him. He does seem to really care about his "legacy" in poker, and a ME final table would have been a dream come true I think, you can be as rich and successful as you like, some things in life money just cannot buy...

Having pokers biggest star, on poker's biggest stage would have been phenomenal for the game, ESPCIALLY good for the WSOP, even the Camel, DN's biggest critic would have to agree with that.

I for one, was rooting very hard for him.

[Woodsey]

Only the Camel really hates him on here, not sure exactly why, sure he has a fine reason

He's funny, friendly, engaging, makes time for everyone at poker tournaments, classy winner, graceful loser, and a great ambassador for poker (imo) obviously he gets paid absolute chunks for being so (closer to 8 figures than 7 his stars deal I hear...) but he's great at his job, so yeah absolutely cannot begrudge him getting the lot for it.

I actually felt so sorry for him (I know!) this year, financially it prolly means less to him than the other 11, but whatever you say about him, shameless self publicist, annoying, wonderful for the game w/e he has devoted his life to poker and you could see in his eyes that this just meant the world to him. He does seem to really care about his "legacy" in poker, and a ME final table would have been a dream come true I think, you can be as rich and successful as you like, some things in life money just cannot buy...

Having pokers biggest star, on poker's biggest stage would have been phenomenal for the game, ESPCIALLY good for the WSOP, even the Camel, DN's biggest critic would have to agree with that.

I for one, was rooting very hard for him.

Camel hates a ton of people though so it's not hard to get on his list