SWING LOWWW - The Rugby World Cup Thread

[kukushkin88]

Your (sic) making some big assumption's. Poor old Nigel can't referee NZ fairly, he's a fan. Happy to have an evidence based discussion that NZ are the worst cheats in the history of professional team sport.

[kukushkin88]

Your (sic) making some big assumption's. Poor old Nigel can't referee NZ fairly, he's a fan. Happy to have an evidence based discussion that NZ are the worst cheats in the history of professional team sport.

fwiw, Nirvana is my favourite ever Blonde poster.

[DaveShoelace]

Respec

[The Camel]

Respec

That's nothing.

Ashley Cole once gave away his Community Shield runners up medal.

[atdc21]

On my local radio station this morning, presenter said Kevin Keegan once gave him a pen lol

[buzzharvey22]

On my local radio station this morning, presenter said Kevin Keegan once gave him a pen lol

I'd have loved that. LOVED IT.

[nirvana]

Your (sic) making some big assumption's. Poor old Nigel can't referee NZ fairly, he's a fan. Happy to have an evidence based discussion that NZ are the worst cheats in the history of professional team sport.

fwiw, Nirvana is my favourite ever Blonde poster.

Its worth a lot Bro, made me happy anyway :-)

[AlunB]

So Eddie Jones is the new England coach. My first thoughts were, shit he's going to make them really good. I certainly think he will get the best out of the backs. But then I remembered his international record with Australia, and looked at England's fixtures for the 6N. I wonder if they get a bit shorter they might be a decent value lay.

[TightEnd]

I think he will make a big impact, whether enough will be in time for this year's 6N i don't know

but there are easy selection wins for starters. He's on record as saying that Robshaw is "lacking" for international rugby so presume that means a new captain and a genuine number 7 and an approach to get turnovers and quick ball

Ford-Slade-Joseph at 10-12-13 will create loads and we know there is talent out wide

maybe eliott daly and christian wade will get a look in too

take the player base, and a coach who will pick on merit and i'd say things will progress fast.

[Woodsey]

Former Australia captain David Campese, who played 101 times for the Wallabies, says opting for a foreign coach like Jones, who he feels is no improvement on Lancaster, shows that England are "desperate".


 

[AlunB]

Former Australia captain David Campese, who played 101 times for the Wallabies, says opting for a foreign coach like Jones, who he feels is no improvement on Lancaster, shows that England are "desperate".


 

Unlike him to have a pop at England...

Agree with Tighty. England potentially have an incredible side. I'm not 100% sure Eddie Jones is the right man, but he will certainly get that backline purring.

[TightEnd]

Alun

without looking at prices (some bookmakers have them up but not on oddschecker)

who would you have in the frame to be next England captain, and who would you pick?

[AlunB]

Alun

without looking at prices (some bookmakers have them up but not on oddschecker)

who would you have in the frame to be next England captain, and who would you pick?

I haven't looked, but am struggling to think of many obvious candidates. Can't really see any of the backs as captain at the current time.

Seems like one of the regulars from 4-8 seems most likely. Tom Wood was always mentioned before as was Launchbury. One of them I would guess?

TBH personally I'm not sure who it would be. England have suffered in the past from captains who didn't really justify their place so it needs to be someone world class in their position.

[TightEnd]

one bookmaker has george ford 6/4

another has Launchbury 6/4

both, as young players, would "skip a generation" in terms of England players being captain (past tom wood, mike brown etc) and potentially be in situ til the 2019 world cup

personally i see Launchbury as far more likely. could be a world class player, and doesn't have to worry about running a game, kicking the goals as Ford would have to

always like my captain to be a forward (the martin johnson "fuck he's big" creed at the coin toss!)

[AlunB]

one bookmaker has george ford 6/4

another has Launchbury 6/4

both, as young players, would "skip a generation" in terms of England players being captain (past tom wood, mike brown etc) and potentially be in situ til the 2019 world cup

personally i see Launchbury as far more likely. could be a world class player, and doesn't have to worry about running a game, kicking the goals as Ford would have to

always like my captain to be a forward (the martin johnson "fuck he's big" creed at the coin toss!)

Martin Johnson is hands down the best captain I can remember from any northern hemisphere team, so that's some (literal) big shoes to fill. Tough to avoid the comparisons for Launchbury, but agree he would probably be my choice.

10 as a captain just doesn't seem very England, and Ford at that. 6/4 surely a huge lay there unless they have some inside info. Mike Brown also seems way too volatile to be a captain, and surely is just based on who do we think will play every game if fit.

There really aren't many obvious leaders in the current team so I'd maybe actually go for Wood in the short term, especially as Launchbury isn't even a 100% guaranteed starter.