BA London bound plane catches fire in Vegas

[ripple11]

I would just get up and go. Maybe some sort of locking system should be installed where the bins can be automatically locked in the event of an emergency.

read this...good idea.

If you have your man bag/ handbag/small carrier with you in your seat....fair enough.

 Get up and go, simple......no one wants to feel a Red-Dog right hook.

[Doobs]

I would just get up and go. Maybe some sort of locking system should be installed where the bins can be automatically locked in the event of an emergency.

read this...good idea.

If you have your man bag/ handbag/small carrier with you in your seat....fair enough.

 Get up and go, simple......no one wants to feel a Red-Dog right hook.

Not sure where you read this, but if people are behaving irrationally in a fire, will the fact the overhead locker stop them behaving irrationally.  I can just imagine a bunch of idiots blocking the way all trying to force there way into overhead lockers. 
Just shoving past and not saying excuse me is definitely the way forward. 

[tonytats]

It would probably be similar to getting on a Ryan air flight , only in reverse

[Royal Flush]

I've seen this Captain referred to as a 'hero' in the media, I'm not sure why though. I've not read anything about it on PPRuNe but seen the video from on board where the engine is on raging fire and the cabin crew are instructing everyone to remain seated. Why on earth was the order to evacuate given so long after such a fire? Also why were pax being evacuated out of both sides of the aircraft??

[MintTrav]

I don't see how issuing the instruction to get off the plane makes you a hero. Not doing so would have been negligent.

There seems to be a question over how he parked the plane, with the fire upwind, blowing onto the plane. One of the lessons learned from Manchester was to stop a plane with a burning wing with the fire downwind, so it's not blowing on the plane, fuel, passengers, escape chutes.............

Something I don't understand is how so many passengers were injured. Twenty-seven were injured to the extent that they had hospital treatment. Without knowing the details, I wonder if there is a design flaw with those chutes.  How hard is it to design chutes that don't injure 10% of people sliding ten feet?

[hhyftrftdr]

I'd hate to be involved in an emergency whilst on a plane, but those chutes do look fun. Perhaps they are less fun when escaping a burning plane.

[david3103]

I don't see how issuing the instruction to get off the plane makes you a hero. Not doing so would have been negligent.

There seems to be a question over how he parked the plane, with the fire upwind, blowing onto the plane. One of the lessons learned from Manchester was to stop a plane with a burning wing with the fire downwind, so it's not blowing on the plane, fuel, passengers, escape chutes.............

Something I don't understand is how so many passengers were injured. Twenty-seven were injured to the extent that they had hospital treatment. Without knowing the details, I wonder if there is a design flaw with those chutes.  How hard is it to design chutes that don't injure 10% of people sliding ten feet?

Bloody hurts when you collide with a hard-shell carry on case.

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I don't see how issuing the instruction to get off the plane makes you a hero. Not doing so would have been negligent.

There seems to be a question over how he parked the plane, with the fire upwind, blowing onto the plane. One of the lessons learned from Manchester was to stop a plane with a burning wing with the fire downwind, so it's not blowing on the plane, fuel, passengers, escape chutes.............

Something I don't understand is how so many passengers were injured. Twenty-seven were injured to the extent that they had hospital treatment. Without knowing the details, I wonder if there is a design flaw with those chutes.  How hard is it to design chutes that don't injure 10% of people sliding ten feet?

I would imagine that most of the injuries are small friction burns, knocks and sprains caused by 100s of people, many of whom will be old and sedentary, moving quickly in a tightly packed bunch. Some will have fallen over on the tarmac, or twisted their ankles in high heels.

Send a few hundred random people down any playground slide and you will get a few injuries. It's nothing to do with the slide design imo.

[Doobs]

Some of the injuries were people hitting other people/luggage on slides then some falling off. Others allegedly jumped from plane as slides were full of luggage/people.

There were a couple of interviews on the bbc.

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Some of the injuries were people hitting other people/luggage on slides then some falling off. Others allegedly jumped from plane as slides were full of luggage/people.

There were a couple of interviews on the bbc.

Cheers. I'll have a look.

[Doobs]

Found it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34215283

The second fella talks about the build up of people/luggage on slides causing people to jump and fall off slides.

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Found it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34215283

The second fella talks about the build up of people/luggage on slides causing people to jump and fall off slides.

Thank you.


That's quite telling actually. Perhaps they should start announcing that passengers with luggage will not be allowed to leave.

[tikay]

Found it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34215283

The second fella talks about the build up of people/luggage on slides causing people to jump and fall off slides.

Thank you.


That's quite telling actually. Perhaps they should start announcing that passengers with luggage will not be allowed to leave.

It's an insoluble problem as long as folks can take hand luggage into the cabin. People don't behave rationally in these situations, no matter how much we lecture & moan.

Maybe the solution is a complete ban on carry-on baggage, barring handbags & manbags.

As long as people can take carry on luggage, they will try to take it with them in an evacuation. You can't legislate against human nature.

In this event, all the injuries were due to hand-luggage causing injuries on the emergency slide. Maybe the USA authorities should prosecute those who did for "endangering life" or whatever?

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Found it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34215283

The second fella talks about the build up of people/luggage on slides causing people to jump and fall off slides.

Thank you.


That's quite telling actually. Perhaps they should start announcing that passengers with luggage will not be allowed to leave.

It's an insoluble problem as long as folks can take hand luggage into the cabin. People don't behave rationally in these situations, no matter how much we lecture & moan.

Maybe the solution is a complete ban on carry-on baggage, barring handbags & manbags.

As long as people can take carry on luggage, they will try to take it with them in an evacuation. You can't legislate against human nature.

In this event, all the injuries were due to hand-luggage causing injuries on the emergency slide. Maybe the USA authorities should prosecute those who did for "endangering life" or whatever?

According to your logic, (Which is probably correct) It wouldn't do any good anyway.

"People don't behave rationally in these situations"

[tikay]

Yup, maybe so. The prospect of 5 years in a cell might help though.

OK, let's ban carry-on luggage. Ryanair may not approve, of course.