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Re: The Mourinho chronicles
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October 28, 2015, 04:23:10 PM »
Quote from: Matt.NFFC. on October 28, 2015, 11:14:30 AM
I don't have much time for the Premier League to be honest.....I'm fed up with just about all of it from gate prices to overpaid footballers (including the football league) but I like the fact that the game has it's characters, and I love Mourinho and all that he brings.
The league only has Wenger and Mourinho that I can instantly think of for something different.
Fergie has gone, even Pearson has gone, and he was definitely worth tuning in for.
But I have to say, that some of the stuff Mourinho is coming out with is laughable.
My feelings exactly.
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October 29, 2015, 12:36:35 PM »
Refs never give Chelsea penalties huh Jose?
You got 5 against Stoke and still lost
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October 31, 2015, 04:00:16 PM »
another home loss
is this it? should it be the end?
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October 31, 2015, 04:09:39 PM »
No team has conceded more goals in the Premier League this season than Chelsea (22)
what an amazing stat that is. completely unthinkable 3 months ago
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October 31, 2015, 04:15:34 PM »
Bournemouth are on 22 conceded - I reckon they'll ship a couple tomorrow, but delighted to hear this about Chelski. A horrible owner, d!ck of a manager and a couple of scumbag players with Costa (on the pitch) and Terry (off the pitch).
I hope Mourinho stays, every loss heaps more humiliation on him and usually leads to another FA charge
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October 31, 2015, 04:41:24 PM »
Great article in the racing post today by their stats guru about the relationship between teams points and their wage bill. The two are totally correlated. He said Jose has never over achieved with any club relative to their wage bill, he might be Chelsea's most successful manager but the reasin why he has been successful is the chairmans bank balance not because he is a super human manager. He hasn't under achieved either. He has just done as a manager what he should be done with the resources he has been given.
He also used the same argument to explain why sherwood shouldn't be sacked because villas points totals over the last fifteen years have totally mirrored their wage bill as well at the other end of the scale. Their wage bill has never been lower relative to the league and that is the reason why they have been in the mire the last two years.
It would be nice to see gaffers like pulis who do out perform their Wage bill at clubs to get a chance at manage at the real top level. Football is so short term and results orientated it will never happen.
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October 31, 2015, 04:44:16 PM »
Amazes me that people think he's a bad manager. There's an awful lot of dross in the premier league; people who are on no one else's hit list in Europe.
If you were Mr Abramovich and money were no object, would you:
a) Offer Jose the chance to clear out his ageing, petulant squad and build a new empire; or
b) Sack him and bring in someone else who has all the same problems to deal with?
Absolute no brainer for me.
If he goes in the next few weeks, he can name his price at a dozen Champions League clubs, while Chelsea are linked with AVB and Hiddink.
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October 31, 2015, 04:55:48 PM »
Quote from: Tal on October 31, 2015, 04:44:16 PM
Amazes me that people think he's a bad manager. There's an awful lot of dross in the premier league; people who are on no one else's hit list in Europe.
If you were Mr Abramovich and money were no object, would you:
a) Offer Jose the chance to clear out his ageing, petulant squad and build a new empire; or
b) Sack him and bring in someone else who has all the same problems to deal with?
Absolute no brainer for me.
If he goes in the next few weeks, he can name his price at a dozen Champions League clubs, while Chelsea are linked with AVB and Hiddink.
I dont disagree he should be kept but isnt he laying the blame on matic/fabregas who arent aging players and who were huge last season but hes wrecking their confidence instead of backing them (yes they have been poor but they need managed and the players in their place wont allow chelsea to dominate the way the above did).
Is he a great manager when things go wrong? His behaviour doesnt suggest so. Hes great when dominating but when things go wrong he tends to make it worse.
Id back him in public and tell him to stfu in private.
There is noone else.
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October 31, 2015, 05:28:36 PM »
Quote from: JohnCharver on October 31, 2015, 04:55:48 PM
Quote from: Tal on October 31, 2015, 04:44:16 PM
Amazes me that people think he's a bad manager. There's an awful lot of dross in the premier league; people who are on no one else's hit list in Europe.
If you were Mr Abramovich and money were no object, would you:
a) Offer Jose the chance to clear out his ageing, petulant squad and build a new empire; or
b) Sack him and bring in someone else who has all the same problems to deal with?
Absolute no brainer for me.
If he goes in the next few weeks, he can name his price at a dozen Champions League clubs, while Chelsea are linked with AVB and Hiddink.
I dont disagree he should be kept but isnt he laying the blame on matic/fabregas who arent aging players and who were huge last season but hes wrecking their confidence instead of backing them (yes they have been poor but they need managed and the players in their place wont allow chelsea to dominate the way the above did).
Is he a great manager when things go wrong? His behaviour doesnt suggest so. Hes great when dominating but when things go wrong he tends to make it worse.
Id back him in public and tell him to stfu in private.
There is noone else.
Definitely that.
Guy can't help himself, just has to whinge like a broken record.
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Re: The Mourinho chronicles
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October 31, 2015, 07:37:45 PM »
Quote from: Marky147 on October 31, 2015, 05:28:36 PM
Quote from: JohnCharver on October 31, 2015, 04:55:48 PM
Quote from: Tal on October 31, 2015, 04:44:16 PM
Amazes me that people think he's a bad manager. There's an awful lot of dross in the premier league; people who are on no one else's hit list in Europe.
If you were Mr Abramovich and money were no object, would you:
a) Offer Jose the chance to clear out his ageing, petulant squad and build a new empire; or
b) Sack him and bring in someone else who has all the same problems to deal with?
Absolute no brainer for me.
If he goes in the next few weeks, he can name his price at a dozen Champions League clubs, while Chelsea are linked with AVB and Hiddink.
I dont disagree he should be kept but isnt he laying the blame on matic/fabregas who arent aging players and who were huge last season but hes wrecking their confidence instead of backing them (yes they have been poor but they need managed and the players in their place wont allow chelsea to dominate the way the above did).
Is he a great manager when things go wrong? His behaviour doesnt suggest so. Hes great when dominating but when things go wrong he tends to make it worse.
Id back him in public and tell him to stfu in private.
There is noone else.
Definitely that.
Guy can't help himself, just has to whinge like a broken record.
Good job he doesn't play PLO.
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November 01, 2015, 12:04:33 AM »
Quote from: Tal on October 31, 2015, 04:44:16 PM
Amazes me that people think he's a bad manager. There's an awful lot of dross in the premier league; people who are on no one else's hit list in Europe.
If you were Mr Abramovich and money were no object, would you:
a) Offer Jose the chance to clear out his ageing, petulant squad and build a new empire; or
b) Sack him and bring in someone else who has all the same problems to deal with?
Absolute no brainer for me.
If he goes in the next few weeks, he can name his price at a dozen Champions League clubs, while Chelsea are linked with AVB and Hiddink.
b)
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November 01, 2015, 12:54:55 AM »
It's a good job Jose hasn't got the keys..
http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/30/turkish-president-forced-to-intervene-as-trabzonspors-boss-takes-referees-hostage-5471724/
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November 01, 2015, 02:06:37 AM »
Quote from: Karabiner on November 01, 2015, 12:54:55 AM
It's a good job Jose hasn't got the keys..
http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/30/turkish-president-forced-to-intervene-as-trabzonspors-boss-takes-referees-hostage-5471724/
I was talking to a mate of mine whose 8 year old young lad plays and he does a bit of reffing. He says the parents are constantly verbally abusing the referee. For 8 year olds!
I told him he'd want to get out of reffing before the young lad hits 12, as it'll only get worse as the games become 'important'.
It's just ridiculous what refs are putting up with today. And this stuff comes from the top down. If Jose Mourinho can openly criticize refs, then why can't 8 year old Johnnys dad?
And eventually something very serious is going to happen. Someone will be killed or seriously injured.
What about when Mourinho lied and made a world class referee retire due to safety concerns?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Frisk
The man is an utter disgrace. He is bad for football, at all levels.
I take great pleasure in his current predicament.
Football really needs to take a leaf out of rugbys book when it comes to respect for refs.
The more pressure you're putting them under, the worse decisions they are going to make. That's obvious.
Trabzonspors need the book thrown at them. Points deduction, massive fine, whatever. Hurt them in such a way that they never, ever think of doing something like that again.
Mourinho should be getting a 12 match touch line ban for his series of offences. Do it again? 20 matches. What's that? You don't like that? Here's a points deduction. Anything else to say? You do? Here's a ban from from European competition.
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November 01, 2015, 03:48:37 AM »
Actually now that I think of it and yes, I am quite drunk
, refs should wear googles with cameras in them so that when people say, "oh my God, how did the ref not give that?", they can see that he didn't bloody see it cos he doesn't see 12 different camera angles in slow motion like we armchair fans do.
One advantage of that would be that the guys that judge referees performances that sit in the stands would be able to better analyse and give instruction on where referees should be in certain circumstances. "Your line of sight wasn't good there, you should have been 5 yards to the right. You need to work on that."
Gary Monk was complaining on Match of the Day that Swansea should have had a penalty for a handball for a Sigursson free kick.
Camera slow motion shows it should have been a penalty. Bloody referees! But wait, even Sigursson didn't appeal for it and he took the bloody thing so he didn't see it. But all the same, bloody referees, they are just useless and should all be sacked.
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