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doubleup
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Re: Happy Mondays
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October 28, 2015, 11:21:51 PM »
Quote from: nirvana on October 28, 2015, 09:40:10 PM
Probably lucky that I have never been a job where I couldn't ring up on any given day and say I need the day off. You accrue this benefit by being an excellent employee before you ask for it.
Don't know what you do, but loads of people have jobs where meetings are arranged every day and it's really quite insulting to just cancel these and waste a lot of people's time because you can't organise your life properly.
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Re: Happy Mondays
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October 28, 2015, 11:27:29 PM »
Quote from: doubleup on October 28, 2015, 11:21:51 PM
Quote from: nirvana on October 28, 2015, 09:40:10 PM
Probably lucky that I have never been a job where I couldn't ring up on any given day and say I need the day off. You accrue this benefit by being an excellent employee before you ask for it.
Don't know what you do, but loads of people have jobs where meetings are arranged every day and it's really quite insulting to just cancel these and waste a lot of people's time because you can't organise your life properly.
Most people I know couldn't either, I consider myself lucky at probably about 50/50 I could duck off in the afternoon to play it, but I have a weird job that involves me working on my own most of the time, not in an office or anything.
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Re: Happy Mondays
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October 28, 2015, 11:34:53 PM »
Definitely make main events 3 days only.
I prefer Friday to Sunday as I need to take a day off. I am always booking the day off on Monday. Maybe a few bosses I have had would let it go, not sure many would forget though. Just feels very unprofessional and I wouldn't do it.
Much better to get unexpected free time on Saturday and Sunday than Sunday and Monday. Would likely just get grouchy not getting paid on a Monday. Meh guess I could play poker late on Sunday.
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Re: Happy Mondays
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October 29, 2015, 12:18:19 AM »
Quote from: doubleup on October 28, 2015, 11:21:51 PM
Quote from: nirvana on October 28, 2015, 09:40:10 PM
Probably lucky that I have never been a job where I couldn't ring up on any given day and say I need the day off. You accrue this benefit by being an excellent employee before you ask for it.
Don't know what you do, but loads of people have jobs where meetings are arranged every day and it's really quite insulting to just cancel these and waste a lot of people's time because you can't organise your life properly.
Agree obviously. Those people shouldn't take a holiday
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October 29, 2015, 12:22:28 AM »
Guys who are saying your boss is a tosser/ take a day off have no idea how working for a living works.
It's not the day off that matters more the impression it leaves and the perception that you're not committed to your job. Can be hugely damaging.
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October 29, 2015, 12:23:41 AM »
Reading all this does make me think like most people's work is some form of imprisonment. Always think my employer is lucky to have me at all and this does give one a massive degree of flexibility. If they don't want they are quick to get rid and I never forget that however senior I've been..If they felt they were better off without me they'd save the money
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How many people who work 'normal' jobs never discuss gambling/poker at work and no one at your place of work would have any clue you played poker/gambled if perception is so important in the work place which this thread indicates? I am really interested if it still has that taboo now given how widespread advertising is on TV/how accessible casinos are now for nights out at the weekend for non gamblers etc compared to 15 years ago.
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Quote from: arbboy on October 29, 2015, 01:13:28 AM
How many people who work 'normal' jobs never discuss gambling/poker at work and no one at your place of work would have any clue you played poker/gambled if perception is so important in the work place which this thread indicates? I am really interested if it still has that taboo now given how widespread advertising is on TV/accessible casinos are now for nights out at the weekend for non gamblers etc compared to 15 years ago.
I think it's still very much taboo, most employers I don't think really give a shit what you do with your private life as long as it doesn't bring the people you work for into disrepute and as long as you turn up on time and do your job. It's only when you don't tick those boxes that it becomes a problem. In my experience, my non-poker playing family, work colleagues and people at uni all like to think they know poker is just gambling, will ruin your life and is evil, and even though you sit there and tell them people can make a living at it etc they just won't believe you. Imo, all forms of gambling are lumped together in people's minds, and the overall perception that it's a bad thing, and certainly that it's not ever anything more than a hobby, is still there.
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Quote from: arbboy on October 29, 2015, 01:13:28 AM
How many people who work 'normal' jobs never discuss gambling/poker at work and no one at your place of work would have any clue you played poker/gambled if perception is so important in the work place which this thread indicates? I am really interested if it still has that taboo now given how widespread advertising is on TV/accessible casinos are now for nights out at the weekend for non gamblers etc compared to 15 years ago.
I think it's still very much taboo, most employers I don't think really give a shit what you do with your private life as long as it doesn't bring the people you work for into disrepute and as long as you turn up on time and do your job. It's only when you don't tick those boxes that it becomes a problem. In my experience, my non-poker playing family, work colleagues and people at uni all like to think they know poker is just another form of unbeatable gambling, will ruin your life and is evil, and even though you sit there and tell them people can make a living at it etc they just won't believe you. Imo, all forms of gambling are lumped together in people's minds, and the overall perception that it's a bad thing, and certainly that it's not ever anything more than a hobby, is still there.
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Re: Happy Mondays
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October 29, 2015, 01:43:11 AM »
Quote from: arbboy on October 28, 2015, 07:40:30 PM
Obviously the work place nowadays doesn't work where work mates cover for each other's shifts at short notice even if you incentivise them accordingly.
I have just texted ten friends who are non pro gamblers and have real jobs whether they could phone up work tomorrow morning or tonight and ask for an emergency day off tomorrow as a holiday not as sick and nine said they could do that easily with no hassle.
I just texted 11 friends and 10 of them said they either couldn't get the day off or that if their boss knew it was for poker/gambling it wouldn't look good at all.
They all also said that I'm really cool and they like me a lot. I didn't even ask that part.
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Re: Happy Mondays
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October 29, 2015, 02:06:00 AM »
There's very little understanding about poker and gambling in real world jobs. I would never mention it at an interview for example and play down what I do outside work
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Re: Happy Mondays
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October 29, 2015, 07:39:28 AM »
Quote from: arbboy on October 29, 2015, 01:13:28 AM
How many people who work 'normal' jobs never discuss gambling/poker at work and no one at your place of work would have any clue you played poker/gambled if perception is so important in the work place which this thread indicates? I am really interested if it still has that taboo now given how widespread advertising is on TV/how accessible casinos are now for nights out at the weekend for non gamblers etc compared to 15 years ago.
I don't mind too much now because I've been there a long time, know all my colleagues really well personally and my feet are well under the table. But if I was to start a new job I would proceed with caution for sure.
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Re: Happy Mondays
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October 29, 2015, 07:46:29 AM »
Quote from: GreekStein on October 29, 2015, 01:43:11 AM
Quote from: arbboy on October 28, 2015, 07:40:30 PM
Obviously the work place nowadays doesn't work where work mates cover for each other's shifts at short notice even if you incentivise them accordingly.
I have just texted ten friends who are non pro gamblers and have real jobs whether they could phone up work tomorrow morning or tonight and ask for an emergency day off tomorrow as a holiday not as sick and nine said they could do that easily with no hassle.
I just texted 11 friends and 10 of them said they either couldn't get the day off or that if their boss knew it was for poker/gambling it wouldn't look good at all.
They all also said that I'm really cool and they like me a lot. I didn't even ask that part.
You have 11 friends? Why didn't # 11 reply?
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Re: Happy Mondays
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October 29, 2015, 08:10:07 AM »
Was really most surprised at the resistance to the potential Monday off. I mean, mathematically, it's going to happen once in 40 or 50 years (I'm assuming the Tourney is a twice a year affair with 1,000 runners), & the potential top prize is, to most of us, close to life-changing.
As an employee or employer, it's always been my line that a good employee, one who performs his work well, efficiently, & is always ready to go the extra mile for his employer, should have no qualms about asking for a day off once in a lifetime. As an employee, I have always given good value, & if ever I needed a favour, I was never shy in asking to call it in.
We also have to define "sickie". If we mean feign sickness, no way, I'd never suggest or do that in a million years. But if I needed a day off, I'd certainly ask, & no reasonable employer would turn me down.
Anyway, appreciate the replies, thank you.
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Re: Happy Mondays
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October 29, 2015, 08:23:22 AM »
I think George has most things I was going to say covered.
No way would I throw a sicky on the basis of a final day of a comp. I'd be to bothered thinking how I would cover it at work to play my best anyway. Given most people at work knew I played poker, keeping a big score quiet would be quite hard (I would imagine)
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