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« Reply #120 on: February 02, 2016, 11:54:51 AM »

What is the point of the latest results? I do not understand the elections in the USA any one bit & the media do not help either. Sky News completely messed up this morning on their website saying Cruz had ousted Trump, but yet, in reality Trump can still be the candidate according to them on the TV channel.

The election is madness.

I remember some bloke from America when talking about our election, that he wishes their election was similar, rather than dragging out for 18 months or so

This vote just shared out the delegates for one small State. When all the States are done, we'll see who has the most. At this stage, it is really about who has momentum and who exceeds or underachieves against expectations, largely with a view to keeping donations coming in. Not only can Trump still be the candidate, it could conceivably be Bush, Christie or Kasich. It is total madness - no doubt about that.

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« Reply #121 on: February 03, 2016, 04:32:43 AM »

Trump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

He has been nominated for "his vigorous peace through strength ideology, used as a threat weapon of deterrence against radical Islam, ISIS, nuclear Iran and Communist China".

http://www.afp.com/en/news/trump-greek-islanders-running-nobel-prize
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« Reply #122 on: February 03, 2016, 11:15:05 AM »

An incredible 84% of under 30s voted for Sanders in IowaCaucus.

Whether he wins or not, something big is happening

 http://ind.pn/1nBYNie
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« Reply #123 on: February 03, 2016, 08:12:31 PM »

An incredible 84% of under 30s voted for Sanders in IowaCaucus.

Whether he wins or not, something big is happening

 http://ind.pn/1nBYNie

Not a big follower of American politics but isn't this just the usual "young people vote left?"
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« Reply #124 on: February 03, 2016, 08:14:40 PM »

An incredible 84% of under 30s voted for Sanders in IowaCaucus.

Whether he wins or not, something big is happening

 http://ind.pn/1nBYNie

Not a big follower of American politics but isn't this just the usual "young people vote left?"

in part, but the suggestion is (a bit like the election of corbyn), energising (young) non-voters to a "new kind of politics" and getting them voting is a big difference to past elections
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« Reply #125 on: February 03, 2016, 09:20:48 PM »

An incredible 84% of under 30s voted for Sanders in IowaCaucus.

Whether he wins or not, something big is happening

 http://ind.pn/1nBYNie

Not a big follower of American politics but isn't this just the usual "young people vote left?"

in part, but the suggestion is (a bit like the election of corbyn), energising (young) non-voters to a "new kind of politics" and getting them voting is a big difference to past elections


My interpretation is that the Yanks are so sick of the money involved in campaigning for office and the inevitability that whether it's a Republican or a Democrat, the President will invariably be in the pockets of the big companies who make big campaign donations. So in stark contrast to that you have Trump on one end who doesn't need the money, and Sanders on the other end who wants to put in a 90% tax rate on the rich.

Either way a new kind of politics as you say.

If it comes down to Sanders vs Trump, it will however be a choice between a man who will die in office vs a man who will get us all killed.
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« Reply #126 on: February 04, 2016, 10:07:37 AM »

Goodbye, Rand Paul; goodbye, GOP dovishness http://53eig.ht/20GW5qa 
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« Reply #127 on: February 05, 2016, 12:46:39 AM »

An incredible 84% of under 30s voted for Sanders in IowaCaucus.

Whether he wins or not, something big is happening

 http://ind.pn/1nBYNie

He had a landslide amongst the young people who voted.

Unfortunately for him, very few of them did.

Young people - you just can't depend on them to show up.
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« Reply #128 on: February 05, 2016, 12:49:24 AM »

The first national poll since Iowa shows Trump's support declining severely, though still in first place, with Rubio being the main beneficiary.

PPP Polls     16/17 Dec    2/3 Feb
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Trump              34             25
Cruz                 18             21
Rubio                13             21
Carson                6             11

Rubio is now leading in head-to-heads against both Trump and Cruz.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/02/republican-race-tightens-nationally-clinton-still-solid.html

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« Reply #129 on: February 05, 2016, 01:00:53 AM »

Trump's 10 minutes of political fame hopefully up and he'll fade further into insignificance as the election goes on. I really can't see all this being anything other than a long irrelevant process before confirming Hillary Clinton as next President, but it being America it'll be fun to follow the ride nonetheless.

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« Reply #130 on: February 05, 2016, 10:45:48 AM »

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« Reply #131 on: February 05, 2016, 03:07:32 PM »

Couple of titbits:

No Republican has ever won the nomination without winning either Iowa or New Hampshire.

No Republican has ever won both States.

Iowa tends to go for a very right-wing religious candidate. New Hampshire is much more centrist.

The last two Iowa winners fitted the mould, but they were already doomed even at that point. Huckabee and Santorum were broke, with only $300k and $100k of campaign funds available at the times they took Iowa.

This year's Iowa winner is a very different prospect. Between the funds he has raised and his Super-PAC, Cruz has $48m available right now. Apart from Bush, who has $50m, the rest have a lot less, with the third-highest having less than half of Cruz' total and it goes down from there. Makes a massive difference when it comes to TV advertising and on-the-ground organization.
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« Reply #132 on: February 06, 2016, 06:11:49 PM »

So former Senator Rick Santorum dropped out and endorsed Rubio.

What do you list as Marco Rubio's top accomplishment in the Senate that made you endorse him?

Well, er, um.....

Just one? List one accomplishment that Marco Rubio has achieved in four years at the United States Senate.

Yeah, well, that is, okay he didn't accomplish anything, but it wasn't his fault...........

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« Reply #133 on: February 06, 2016, 06:14:11 PM »

What would have happened if he'd said "I don't want anyone voting for Trump or Cruz" (which I assume is the real answer)?
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« Reply #134 on: February 07, 2016, 10:14:50 AM »

Marco Rubio had a shocker in last night’s debate http://specc.ie/1SBuuFW 



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