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« Reply #255 on: March 03, 2016, 11:20:04 PM »

It's nice to see you post that Tighty, this is essentially the very reason why Trump is so popular with the people. It is also the reason why all politicos are absolutely shitting themselves hence you see the smear campaigns left and right.

It's also the same reason I have feared for Trump's life for the last 6 month's. They got away with it with JFK, I'm not sure the American public will be so ready to swallow it this time.

Also the people who fear Trump will take us to world war 3, 4 and 5. Can he really be any worse for world piece than the Bush family?

Comparing Trump to the Bush family (I fully understand your point of view of them) is irrelevant isn't it?

We are talking about the next President not looking back.

Trump is a bully and a volatile character. Hardly the type you want as leader of the free world.

Common sense tells me he is a significantly greater risk to stability and diplomatic relations than say Clinton.








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« Reply #256 on: March 03, 2016, 11:32:53 PM »

It's nice to see you post that Tighty, this is essentially the very reason why Trump is so popular with the people. It is also the reason why all politicos are absolutely shitting themselves hence you see the smear campaigns left and right.

It's also the same reason I have feared for Trump's life for the last 6 month's. They got away with it with JFK, I'm not sure the American public will be so ready to swallow it this time.

Also the people who fear Trump will take us to world war 3, 4 and 5. Can he really be any worse for world piece than the Bush family?


Pretty sure if there is a WW3, there won't be a 4 or a 5. Certainly not under his Administration.
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« Reply #257 on: March 04, 2016, 09:30:23 AM »

this would be fun

CNN: Source close to Romneys says goal is to lock Trump out in brokered convention. CNN says Romney or maybe Ryan could be candidate.
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« Reply #258 on: March 04, 2016, 11:34:20 AM »

this would be fun

CNN: Source close to Romneys says goal is to lock Trump out in brokered convention. CNN says Romney or maybe Ryan could be candidate.

Surely if that happens Trump just runs as an independent out of spite and skewers the Republican candidate?
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« Reply #259 on: March 04, 2016, 11:38:08 AM »

this would be fun

CNN: Source close to Romneys says goal is to lock Trump out in brokered convention. CNN says Romney or maybe Ryan could be candidate.

Surely if that happens Trump just runs as an independent out of spite and skewers the Republican candidate?

no idea, i just liked the house of cards aspect to it

calling Mr Murray, Mr Murray?
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« Reply #260 on: March 04, 2016, 11:39:57 AM »

this would be fun

CNN: Source close to Romneys says goal is to lock Trump out in brokered convention. CNN says Romney or maybe Ryan could be candidate.

Translation for thickos please
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« Reply #261 on: March 04, 2016, 11:56:19 AM »

this would be fun

CNN: Source close to Romneys says goal is to lock Trump out in brokered convention. CNN says Romney or maybe Ryan could be candidate.

Translation for thickos please

If you don't win 1237 delegates, then the Republican candidate is decided at the convention. This is a brokered deal between all of GOP top brass/delegates. Trump would have no chance. I do think lots of them would rather lose than have Trump as their candidate. It would be good if Trump and Bernie ran as independents, it would be kind of like actual democracy.
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« Reply #262 on: March 04, 2016, 12:13:59 PM »

this would be fun

CNN: Source close to Romneys says goal is to lock Trump out in brokered convention. CNN says Romney or maybe Ryan could be candidate.

Translation for thickos please

If you don't win 1237 delegates, then the Republican candidate is decided at the convention. This is a brokered deal between all of GOP top brass/delegates. Trump would have no chance. I do think lots of them would rather lose than have Trump as their candidate. It would be good if Trump and Bernie ran as independents, it would be kind of like actual democracy.

That would actually be pretty awesome. It's a Rock Paper Scissors kind of deal. I don't think Bernie could beat Trump if it were head-to-head, I don't think Trump could beat Hillary, but I do think Bernie could beat Trump and Hillary (and Cruz/Rubio) if it were split four ways.
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« Reply #263 on: March 04, 2016, 01:37:50 PM »

June would be too late for Trump to register as an Independent.
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« Reply #264 on: March 04, 2016, 01:43:16 PM »

June would be too late for Trump to register as an Independent.

When is the cut off?
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« Reply #265 on: March 05, 2016, 10:26:59 AM »

Tour de force of a piece from Matt Taibbi on the rise of Donald Trump and the media's complicity in it

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-america-made-donald-trump-unstoppable-20160224?page=13
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« Reply #266 on: March 05, 2016, 01:27:51 PM »

June would be too late for Trump to register as an Independent.

When is the cut off?

It varies by State. Most are in August, but a few, including Texas and Florida, will have passed before the Convention (18-21 July). However, it's not just a case of filing - you need to collect signatures in the State in support of your candidacy, ranging from 275 in Tennessee to 178,039 in California. To get onto every State's ballot, you need to collect over 900,000 signatures, so starting on 22 July wouldn't give much time. Texas and South Dakota have 'sore loser' laws preventing candidates who failed to get their party nomination from standing as an Independent.

https://ballotpedia.org/Filing_deadlines_and_signature_requirements_for_independent_presidential_candidates,_2016

There is another way, which is to be a write-in candidate, ie the voter has to write your name himself on the ballot paper. It's less reliable, but write-ins candidates have won several State Primaries in the past. Seven States (Arkansas, Hawaii, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nevada, Oklahoma & South Dakota) don't allow write-ins but, of those, only Nevada and Oklahoma have filing dates before the Convention.
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« Reply #267 on: March 05, 2016, 09:45:50 PM »

Four States voting today - Louisiana, Kentucky, Kansas and Maine, all with delegates split proportionately. Trump has been ahead in the polls, but Cruz has been closing recently and looks like he can do well in most of them.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/04/donald-trump-and-ted-cruz-square-off-in-saturday-caucuses/
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« Reply #268 on: March 05, 2016, 11:52:17 PM »

It's five States today - missed Nebraska.

It's a big night for Cruz - two States banked already.
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« Reply #269 on: March 06, 2016, 11:56:46 AM »

June would be too late for Trump to register as an Independent.

When is the cut off?

It varies by State. Most are in August, but a few, including Texas and Florida, will have passed before the Convention (18-21 July). However, it's not just a case of filing - you need to collect signatures in the State in support of your candidacy, ranging from 275 in Tennessee to 178,039 in California. To get onto every State's ballot, you need to collect over 900,000 signatures, so starting on 22 July wouldn't give much time. Texas and South Dakota have 'sore loser' laws preventing candidates who failed to get their party nomination from standing as an Independent.

https://ballotpedia.org/Filing_deadlines_and_signature_requirements_for_independent_presidential_candidates,_2016

There is another way, which is to be a write-in candidate, ie the voter has to write your name himself on the ballot paper. It's less reliable, but write-ins candidates have won several State Primaries in the past. Seven States (Arkansas, Hawaii, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nevada, Oklahoma & South Dakota) don't allow write-ins but, of those, only Nevada and Oklahoma have filing dates before the Convention.

Thanks for this.

Trump might be an exceptional case I guess, in terms of the speed with which he'll be able to gather the requisite number of signatories?

Since Reagan, I have no sympathy for the GOP whatsoever but what a horrible spot they're in…. Trump, Cruz or a brokered deal for someone who gained almost no delegates.
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