Cricket World t20 - England have a chance?

[KingPush]

Great final even though it was a disappointing end to it. What Bayliss and Farbrace have done to thsi team in a short amount of time is very impressive. Anyone know where the idea for the Root over came from?

[bergeroo]

How much of that last over was:
Bad Bowling
Amazing technique from the batsman
Luck?

[KingPush]

First ball was very bad, second ball was bad and I was in too much pain to watch the rest. Would have thought bowling outside off yorkers would be better than a middle to leg line with the way he was setting himself up.

[vegaslover]

First ball was very bad, second ball was bad and I was in too much pain to watch the rest. Would have thought bowling outside off yorkers would be better than a middle to leg line with the way he was setting himself up.

Yeah this, Braithwaite well known to ove the on side, shoulda been wide on the off, tactic that was used well in previous games.
Reckon that Root over had a lot to do with whatever got said on the field after he was out when batting. Certainly looked pissed off at WI when walking off

[TightEnd]

great picture



meanwhile...

Combined-format stats Joe Root's over past year worth noting: 2855 runs @ 55.98

[nellberg]

First ball was very bad, second ball was bad and I was in too much pain to watch the rest. Would have thought bowling outside off yorkers would be better than a middle to leg line with the way he was setting himself up.

Yeah this, Braithwaite well known to ove the on side, shoulda been wide on the off, tactic that was used well in previous games.
Reckon that Root over had a lot to do with whatever got said on the field after he was out when batting. Certainly looked pissed off at WI when walking off

I think we should have gone wide yorkers, especially to Samuels are he backs away. Braithwaite showed he can hit inside-out so it would have been a risk but it's still far more difficult to hit sixes over cover than long on.

Credit to braithwaite, his scoop shot changed the dynamic of the game and we got a bit muddled up with our thinking. Mid-off up to Samuels a particularly strange choice.

One thing I was saying to my mates after the New Zealand game was that I didn't think we didn't bowl that well at the death. Those last 4 overs went for 20 and took wickets, everyone's saying it was amazing but it was very results-orientated. Ronchi's hit a full toss down long-off's throat. Anderson's hit a half volley down long-off's throat. If they both go for 6 no-one says they bowled great.

Yesterday in the last 10 balls they hit their mark once (Jordan's last ball to Samuels was perfect). rest of Jordan's over was hittablle, first one went for 4 to vacant long-off region, the rest were mis-hit for ones but I keep thinking we'd got away with them. Stokes then missed his length and also his line, the 1st one is a free hit basically and the others are still too straight. Still no idea how the 3rd six has gone 20 rows back, nowhere near the middle of the bat!

It's obviously super-tough bowling at the death in these pressure situations, and they'll learn from this. Be nice to see them work on some variations, like a slower ball. Would be a lot more difficult to set yourself as a batsman if you knew it would be either a yorker or a slowie, like when Bravo bowls at the back end. Both Jordan and Stokes seem to want to bowl at the death and enjoy the challenge (Stokes maybe not so much now!) so with a bit more practice they'll get better.

All in all England definitely exceeded my expectations. Going to India with only 1 player with IPL experience (Morgan) and he only contributes 66 runs all tournament. Main spinners only bowl 33 overs all tournament for 10 wickets and go at 8.82 an over. To still make the final and be in with a great shout of winning it took some doing and they'll be together as a group for a good few years, so promising signs for sure.

[TightEnd]

ICC's team of the WT20: Roy, de Kock, Kohli (capt), Root, Buttler (wk), Watson, Russell, Santner, Willey, Badree, Nehra (12th: Mustafizur)

poor old Ish Sodhi cant get in!

[bergeroo]

Anyone got a list of top wicket takers in the tourney without the prelims. The two NZ spinners tied for the most? Did Badree make top 4?

[nellberg]

Anyone got a list of top wicket takers in the tourney without the prelims. The two NZ spinners tied for the most? Did Badree make top 4?

Sant 10
Sodhi 10
Willey 10

Mustifizur 9
Badree 9
Bravo 9
Russell 9

[bergeroo]

Thanks.

Really enjoyed the tournament a hell of a lot. A million times more than recent 50 over world cups which seemed to me to be interminable and incredibly boring.

[nirvana]

Thanks.

Really enjoyed the tournament a hell of a lot. A million times more than recent 50 over world cups which seemed to me to be interminable and incredibly boring.

Yep. Don't think it would be a bad thing to scrap international 50 over cricket. Probably the only reason it survives is because it's the mainstay of club cricket

[nellberg]

Thanks.

Really enjoyed the tournament a hell of a lot. A million times more than recent 50 over world cups which seemed to me to be interminable and incredibly boring.

Yep. Don't think it would be a bad thing to scrap international 50 over cricket. Probably the only reason it survives is because it's the mainstay of club cricket

Big 3 make a boat load a cash from the pointless 5-7 match ODI series, they'll never bin them. As with everything it'll all about the money

[muckthenuts]

Speaking of which I just came across this wonderful quote from Dave Richardson -

"Again, the reason to go to a 10-team [2019 World Cup] tournament was done for a number of reasons some time back. Number one probably it was a format that would generate more competitive cricket and secondly more value. If we're honest with ourselves, a tournament which involves a guaranteed nine Indian matches is worth substantially more than a tournament with less Indian matches. And of course the money that's generated from that event is for the benefit of all members including the Associate members."

Maybe one day cricket will be played purely for the sake of it rather than to fill the coffers of executives.

[nellberg]

Speaking of which I just came across this wonderful quote from Dave Richardson -

"Again, the reason to go to a 10-team [2019 World Cup] tournament was done for a number of reasons some time back. Number one probably it was a format that would generate more competitive cricket and secondly more value. If we're honest with ourselves, a tournament which involves a guaranteed nine Indian matches is worth substantially more than a tournament with less Indian matches. And of course the money that's generated from that event is for the benefit of all members including the Associate members."

Maybe one day cricket will be played purely for the sake of it rather than to fill the coffers of executives.

Haha, aye Dave, I'm sure loads of that money will get ploughed into developing cricket in Afghanistan, Ireland and Holland ...

[vegaslover]

Speaking of which I just came across this wonderful quote from Dave Richardson -

"Again, the reason to go to a 10-team [2019 World Cup] tournament was done for a number of reasons some time back. Number one probably it was a format that would generate more competitive cricket and secondly more value. If we're honest with ourselves, a tournament which involves a guaranteed nine Indian matches is worth substantially more than a tournament with less Indian matches. And of course the money that's generated from that event is for the benefit of all members including the Associate members."

Maybe one day cricket will be played purely for the sake of it rather than to fill the coffers of executives.

Haha, aye Dave, I'm sure loads of that money will get ploughed into developing cricket in Afghanistan, Ireland and Holland ...

How exactly do they expect associate members to get better without playing the top nations. Bangladesh and Afghanistan looked well worth their place imo. Them being competitive made  it a much better tournament