Cricket World t20 - England have a chance?

[fatcatstu]

So the world t20 tournament is under a month away now, and England have just announced their squad.

E Morgan, M Ali, S Billings, J Buttler, L Dawson, S Finn, A Hales, C Jordan, A Rashid, J Root, J Roy, B Stokes, R Topley, J Vince, D Willey


A young squad, with no Chris Woakes in it being the only surprise really.

New England attitude, attack at all costs. Some great results recently, and generally entertaining games.

What do you think England's chances are?

[TightEnd]

good

India obvious favourites

we are a fast developing side though, lots of batting firepower up top, will bat most of the way down too

possibly lack a gun bowler, though rashid in the bbl, second highest wicket taker, pointed to potential in sub-continent conditions

many of the other sides have problems, aus can't play spin, south africa have no depth, pakistan might not turn up, west indies are a rabble and might not care, NZL probably under-rated but not really their conditions, sri lanka probably a threat

i haven't looked at the prices but i would have england top 3-4 in the market behind india 

[fatcatstu]

http://www.oddschecker.com/cricket/t20-world-cup

India 11/4
Australia 6/1
England 7/1
South Africa 7/1

I think India are right to be favourites in their own conditions, they are very hard to beat in the sub-continent, but then they did get skittled for 100 against Sri Lanka yesterday!

Batsman-wise I like Kohli for top scorer. He has jsut come on in leaps and bounds in the last year, brilliant to watch and rarely lets them down. If they have a good tournament, either Kohli or Sharma will have gone well.

Anyone think there may be some value in Buttler being top scorer? Paddy Power have him at 50/1. Is this because he wont be facing the necessary amount of balls to get the runs needed? If his one day form is an indicator, he could cause mayhem.

[TightEnd]

would need to be batting top 4

roy
hales
root

and then who? it was Morgan, might not be now

if you think its buttler at 4 fine. in odis they have pushed him higher up, perhaps the same applies in the T20 given you have stokes and willey to be  finishers lower down

will get a clue next week in the South Africa T20 matches at the end of this tour

[fatcatstu]

I think Vince slotted in at 3 in the UAE when he, Hales and Roy all played. So could look something like this from the squad given

Hales
Roy
Vince
Root
Buttler
Morgan
Stokes
Moeen
Rashid
Willey
Finn

[TightEnd]

I think Vince slotted in at 3 in the UAE when he, Hales and Roy all played. So could look something like this from the squad given

Hales
Roy
Vince
Root
Buttler
Morgan
Stokes
Moeen
Rashid
Willey
Finn

could be. might be a bowler short in what will be tough bowling conditions, might be batting stokes too low

looks a good squad though, plenty of options

[swinebag22]

Not sure about the exact playing conditions, but some venues could have teams playing 3 spinners. If England rock up on one of these tracks, we could be in trouble.

[horseplayer]

This England side play spin fine now

[nellberg]

I think Vince slotted in at 3 in the UAE when he, Hales and Roy all played. So could look something like this from the squad given

Hales
Roy
Vince
Root
Buttler
Morgan
Stokes
Moeen
Rashid
Willey
Finn

could be. might be a bowler short in what will be tough bowling conditions, might be batting stokes too low

looks a good squad though, plenty of options

Topley for Vince I think is how they'll go. Vince played in UAE due to injury to stokes? Or root being rested? Can't remember. That still gives us Rashid and willey at 8/9, below that you don't need batting in t20.

I think we'll go well but lack of experience in these conditions will be our undoing. Sides like India, Australia, south Africa and Windies (if they pick their good players) have imbraced ipl so their players have built up that experience over there. We just have Morgan.

On a positive note We're a hell of a lot closer to winning than 12 months ago, and have the easier group imo

[rinswun]

Should have picked Luke Wright. Top 10 T20 batsman in the world imo.

[TightEnd]

Should have picked Luke Wright. Top 10 T20 batsman in the world imo.

and looking at KP in the BBL, he'd be in my top 4 too

all other baggage aside, which isn't realistic, but still a world class T20 bat.

[fatcatstu]

Should have picked Luke Wright. Top 10 T20 batsman in the world imo.

and looking at KP in the BBL, he'd be in my top 4 too

all other baggage aside, which isn't realistic, but still a world class T20 bat.

Agreed. In superb form in this format, unfortunately Strauss is supreme leader now, and even though he has done a lot of good, this is a glaring mistake on his part.

[maldini32]

Bangladesh are a very lively outsider. In familiar conditions and they've had some v good results in the last 12 months. Well balanced team and a few genuine worldies. Granted they've got to get through the qualifiers, I don't see them really fearing anyone. At 40/1 happy to take a punt.

If West Indies sort their politics out and the first team turns up I fancy them to go deep again.

[maldini32]

England deffo have a chance, Ali and Rashid will be huge for them.

[HutchGF]

I really fancy England for this and the next ODI world cup.

It is a breath of fresh air watching them play and the have the real joker in the pack in Buttler.

I'd like to see Root at 3 and Buttler at 4 throughout. Give him chance to play the big, match winning innings every game.

Like us at the quoted price and will also have a dabble on Buttler top run scorer.