Adam Johnson`

[RED-DOG]

Heard on Sky news that the Doctor who got involved in the case had found some of AJ behaviour towards sexual desires very disturbing, he kept the arrest quite for as long as he did cos that way he was still bagging £60k a week from Sunderland, We won the league with a pedo on the wing, hope he rots in Leeds, shit player, obnoxious and shows no feelings of his guilt.

its paedo

and he's not a paedophile, that's for pre-pubescent children

It's it's.

If we're being pedantic.

It's It's, isn't it ?

It's not isn't it ? It's isn't it? Isn't it?

[hhyftrftdr]

Craig Thompson - hardly a career after the event mind - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Thomson_(footballer,_born_1991)

Plays in a junior league now lol

[david3103]

Bemused by this discussion. He didn't get six years just because of what he did sexually with the girl.

The judge made it crystal clear that he maxed it because Johnson denied what happened for so long, leading to her being bullied live and online and causing her to develop psychological problems. The judge's comments are in all the reports.

Well said

The girl took an overdose which reports suggest could on another day have killed her. I imagine she will have to move area completely to try and avoid anymore abuse though even that probably wont help

Come on now, that can't be blamed on Johnson. 

This girl knew full well where this was going, if you read those text messages/whatsapp if she felt in danger at anytime she should have approached someone.   

A 15 year old girl not asking for help shocker...

Maybe help wasn't required, ffs she had a bit of a play about with a footballer probably the fantasy of most 15 year old girls.  

Are you saying you weren't sexually active at 15?   What if it had been a 17 year old footballer who was about to make it, would it have made any difference?

Are you suggesting that she 'asked for it'?
World of difference between the fantasies of a 15yr old and the reality of being groped in a car parked in a dark corner...

[Ironside]

to me what this guy did was by far alot worse he got 34 months

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/moray/858914/man-abused-girl-kitchen-table-people-completely-unaware-ate-dinner-nearby/

[horseplayer]

Bemused by this discussion. He didn't get six years just because of what he did sexually with the girl.

The judge made it crystal clear that he maxed it because Johnson denied what happened for so long, leading to her being bullied live and online and causing her to develop psychological problems. The judge's comments are in all the reports.

Well said

The girl took an overdose which reports suggest could on another day have killed her. I imagine she will have to move area completely to try and avoid anymore abuse though even that probably wont help

Come on now, that can't be blamed on Johnson. 

This girl knew full well where this was going, if you read those text messages/whatsapp if she felt in danger at anytime she should have approached someone.   

A 15 year old girl not asking for help shocker...

Maybe help wasn't required, ffs she had a bit of a play about with a footballer probably the fantasy of most 15 year old girls.  

Are you saying you weren't sexually active at 15?   What if it had been a 17 year old footballer who was about to make it, would it have made any difference?

Are you suggesting that she 'asked for it'?
World of difference between the fantasies of a 15yr old and the reality of being groped in a car parked in a dark corner...

Strange questions leave you to it

[JohnCharver]

to me what this guy did was by far alot worse he got 34 months

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/moray/858914/man-abused-girl-kitchen-table-people-completely-unaware-ate-dinner-nearby/

Would agree, but would have said this guy should never be released.

Is the reason he got less his early plea/law changes since the dates of the offences?

[Doobs]

to me what this guy did was by far alot worse he got 34 months

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/moray/858914/man-abused-girl-kitchen-table-people-completely-unaware-ate-dinner-nearby/

Would agree, but would have said this guy should never be released.

Is the reason he got less his early plea/law changes since the dates of the offences?

It could have been like the original Stuart Hall trial?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22932222

The judge said for most of Hall's offences the maximum sentence at the time they were committed was two years, but the remainder carried a potential term of five years.
He added: "The maximum sentence for this type of offence has been significantly increased, since these offences were committed, to 10 years."


FWIW The original Hall sentence was increased on appeal

[david3103]

Bemused by this discussion. He didn't get six years just because of what he did sexually with the girl.

The judge made it crystal clear that he maxed it because Johnson denied what happened for so long, leading to her being bullied live and online and causing her to develop psychological problems. The judge's comments are in all the reports.

Well said

The girl took an overdose which reports suggest could on another day have killed her. I imagine she will have to move area completely to try and avoid anymore abuse though even that probably wont help

Come on now, that can't be blamed on Johnson. 

This girl knew full well where this was going, if you read those text messages/whatsapp if she felt in danger at anytime she should have approached someone.   

A 15 year old girl not asking for help shocker...

Maybe help wasn't required, ffs she had a bit of a play about with a footballer probably the fantasy of most 15 year old girls.  

Are you saying you weren't sexually active at 15?   What if it had been a 17 year old footballer who was about to make it, would it have made any difference?

Are you suggesting that she 'asked for it'?
World of difference between the fantasies of a 15yr old and the reality of being groped in a car parked in a dark corner...

Strange questions leave you to it

They weren't addressed to you. They were a response to the bolded portion of PokerBroker's post.

[aaron1867]

6 years is utterly ridic. Look at the sentences of footballers in recent times

Ched Evans, rape, pleaded not guilty throughout. 3 years, was it? out in nearly 2?

Jordan Robertson killed family in drink driving incident, 32 months.

Adam Johnson has some sort of sexual intention with someone 15 and eventually pleads guilty. Gets 6 years. In my eyes, his offence was the least serious, imo.

[JohnCharver]

6 years is utterly ridic. Look at the sentences of footballers in recent times

Ched Evans, rape, pleaded not guilty throughout. 3 years, was it? out in nearly 2?

Jordan Robertson killed family in drink driving incident, 32 months.

Adam Johnson has some sort of sexual intention with someone 15 and eventually pleads guilty. Gets 6 years. In my eyes, his offence was the least serious, imo.

So his sentence is too long just because others are too short?

I think the calculated nature of the crime needs to be taken into account aswell.

[PokerBroker]

Bemused by this discussion. He didn't get six years just because of what he did sexually with the girl.

The judge made it crystal clear that he maxed it because Johnson denied what happened for so long, leading to her being bullied live and online and causing her to develop psychological problems. The judge's comments are in all the reports.

Well said

The girl took an overdose which reports suggest could on another day have killed her. I imagine she will have to move area completely to try and avoid anymore abuse though even that probably wont help

Come on now, that can't be blamed on Johnson. 

This girl knew full well where this was going, if you read those text messages/whatsapp if she felt in danger at anytime she should have approached someone.   

A 15 year old girl not asking for help shocker...

Maybe help wasn't required, ffs she had a bit of a play about with a footballer probably the fantasy of most 15 year old girls.  

Are you saying you weren't sexually active at 15?   What if it had been a 17 year old footballer who was about to make it, would it have made any difference?

Are you suggesting that she 'asked for it'?
World of difference between the fantasies of a 15yr old and the reality of being groped in a car parked in a dark corner...

Deserved what?  from what I can see she was willing to go along with it all.   Had she been 12 I'd have been like life for the scumbag, but the majority of 1 year olds are sexually active these days.  They know what is going on. 

Nobody, regardless of age ever deserves to be abused or to "ask for it".   

[OverTheBorder]

Bemused by this discussion. He didn't get six years just because of what he did sexually with the girl.

The judge made it crystal clear that he maxed it because Johnson denied what happened for so long, leading to her being bullied live and online and causing her to develop psychological problems. The judge's comments are in all the reports.

Well said

The girl took an overdose which reports suggest could on another day have killed her. I imagine she will have to move area completely to try and avoid anymore abuse though even that probably wont help

Come on now, that can't be blamed on Johnson. 

This girl knew full well where this was going, if you read those text messages/whatsapp if she felt in danger at anytime she should have approached someone.   

A 15 year old girl not asking for help shocker...

Maybe help wasn't required, ffs she had a bit of a play about with a footballer probably the fantasy of most 15 year old girls.  

Are you saying you weren't sexually active at 15?   What if it had been a 17 year old footballer who was about to make it, would it have made any difference?

Are you suggesting that she 'asked for it'?
World of difference between the fantasies of a 15yr old and the reality of being groped in a car parked in a dark corner...

Deserved what?  from what I can see she was willing to go along with it all.   Had she been 12 I'd have been like life for the scumbag, but the majority of 1 year olds are sexually active these days.  They know what is going on. 

Nobody, regardless of age ever deserves to be abused or to "ask for it".   

You might wanna fix that typo quick....

[OverTheBorder]

The thing with this is, in half of Europe it's not a crime. Craig Thomson got a game in Lithuania as age of consent was 14 and it's hard to vilify someone who hasn't broken the laws of your land. Interestingly they upped it to 16 in 2010, after he arrived!!

However, it's the laws of our land, his job demands a higher level of social responsibility. I am fully for making example of role models. The money they earn is the risk premium for living a life in the spot light, and the increased scrutiny.  He also has access to the best lawyers that Joe Bloggs cannot get. He lied throughout and showed little to no sincere remorse. I think it's about right, he gets a top end sentence.

[Doobs]

6 years is utterly ridic. Look at the sentences of footballers in recent times

Ched Evans, rape, pleaded not guilty throughout. 3 years, was it? out in nearly 2?

Jordan Robertson killed family in drink driving incident, 32 months.

Adam Johnson has some sort of sexual intention with someone 15 and eventually pleads guilty. Gets 6 years. In my eyes, his offence was the least serious, imo.

Jordan Robertson killed one person in a death by dangerous driving incident.  I think you have the wrong footballer/sentence. His sentence seems in line with the guidelines.  I am not sure how it compares, as the other two offences were intentional, yet Mr Robertson appears to have killed someone while distracted.  I don't want to diminish the death of someone here, but there can't be a driver who hasn't done something stupid whilst distracted.  

[TightEnd]

6 years is utterly ridic. Look at the sentences of footballers in recent times

Ched Evans, rape, pleaded not guilty throughout. 3 years, was it? out in nearly 2?

Jordan Robertson killed family in drink driving incident, 32 months.

Adam Johnson has some sort of sexual intention with someone 15 and eventually pleads guilty. Gets 6 years. In my eyes, his offence was the least serious, imo.

Jordan Robertson killed one person in a death by dangerous driving incident.  I think you have the wrong footballer/sentence. His sentence seems in line with the guidelines.  I am not sure how it compares, as the other two offences were intentional, yet Mr Robertson appears to have killed someone while distracted.  I don't want to diminish the death of someone here, but there can't be a driver who hasn't done something stupid whilst distracted. 

i think he means Ross McCormick.