Adam Johnson`

[baldock92]

Rix got 1 year for sex with a 15 year old, Johnson 6 years for sexaul activity with 15 year old. Something doesn't add up

Can't disagree that it's a little strange, he's 100% being made an example of, but still 6 years is too harsh.

I know it's a completely different kettle of fish and the two aren't directly comparable, but it's a strange world we live in when Oscar Pistorious got 5 years for killing his wife, and Johnson gets 6 for sexual activity with a 15 year old.

[horseplayer]

He didn't help himself with not switching to the guilty plea until the latest chance either

Ridiculous comment's about money grabbing as doobs said no compensation been sought or given

[DungBeetle]

It's somewhat of an own goal as well in that the general sentiment on the internet today is sympathy at the sentence, rather than reflecting on his crimes.

[DungBeetle]

He didn't help himself with not switching to the guilty plea until the latest chance either

Ridiculous comment's about money grabbing as doobs said no compensation been sought or given

And I also don't see how he can plead not guilty given the record on facebook etc.   What was he hoping to achieve?

[Doobs]

Rix got 1 year for sex with a 15 year old, Johnson 6 years for sexaul activity with 15 year old. Something doesn't add up

The World has changed, sentencing guidelines change.  John Peel married a 15 year old in different times.  The Peadophile information exchange wouldn't last 5 minutes these days.  Things change, probably for the better.  

[hhyftrftdr]

Guy is a complete idiot and thick as pig shit, but 6 years doesn't sit quite right. As already mentioned, you see much more severe crimes slapped with lesser sentences.

''As it is he has abused a position of trust, so he should be treated in a similar way to a teacher''.....don't agree with that Dooobs. Why was he in a position of trust?

It was what the judge said in the sentencing

Adam Johnson's crimes were the most serious of their type, the judge says.

Judge Jonathan Rose says his offences were category 1A, the most serious.

He says "there is an abuse of trust, you are trusted by young fans to behave properly". 

Well I think the judge is talking bollocks in that case then. You cannot seriously lump footballers in with teachers etc, otherwise where do you draw the line? Surely nearly every occupation has the potential to be an ''abuse of trust''?

[horseplayer]

He didn't help himself with not switching to the guilty plea until the latest chance either

Ridiculous comment's about money grabbing as doobs said no compensation been sought or given

And I also don't see how he can plead not guilty given the record on facebook etc.   What was he hoping to achieve?

Just think he assumed he would get away with it. He has had his whole adult life being pandered to nothing ever going wrong so guess was in denial.

The comment to one of the security guards early on summed him up "this is quite boring ain't it?".

[EvilPie]

For context, but also no comparison, my wife is 12 years younger than me. If we had met at one hour past her permissable birthday all those years ago, does that suddenly make it ok?

Sick brags.

[TightEnd]

Guy is a complete idiot and thick as pig shit, but 6 years doesn't sit quite right. As already mentioned, you see much more severe crimes slapped with lesser sentences.

''As it is he has abused a position of trust, so he should be treated in a similar way to a teacher''.....don't agree with that Dooobs. Why was he in a position of trust?

It was what the judge said in the sentencing

Adam Johnson's crimes were the most serious of their type, the judge says.

Judge Jonathan Rose says his offences were category 1A, the most serious.

He says "there is an abuse of trust, you are trusted by young fans to behave properly". 

Well I think the judge is talking bollocks in that case then. You cannot seriously lump footballers in with teachers etc, otherwise where do you draw the line? Surely nearly every occupation has the potential to be an ''abuse of trust''?

well yes, every adult has to respect the boundaries of laws and deceny surely? thats what being an adult is about if you are considering activity with a 15 year old, which he did. he then abused his position as an adult.

footballer = public occupation, high profile, clubs wheel them out into community, schools etc. while its not quite teacher/pupil, doctor/patient there is an abuse of trust

[arbboy]

Guy is a complete idiot and thick as pig shit, but 6 years doesn't sit quite right. As already mentioned, you see much more severe crimes slapped with lesser sentences.

''As it is he has abused a position of trust, so he should be treated in a similar way to a teacher''.....don't agree with that Dooobs. Why was he in a position of trust?

It was what the judge said in the sentencing

Adam Johnson's crimes were the most serious of their type, the judge says.

Judge Jonathan Rose says his offences were category 1A, the most serious.

He says "there is an abuse of trust, you are trusted by young fans to behave properly". 

Well I think the judge is talking bollocks in that case then. You cannot seriously lump footballers in with teachers etc, otherwise where do you draw the line? Surely nearly every occupation has the potential to be an ''abuse of trust''?

This.  There is an 'implied abuse of trust' being a footballer.  A binman probably comes into contact with more children a day than a footballer would.  A teacher has a 100% abuse of trust in this situation.  

[arbboy]

What would the sentence if Johnson had been 19 years old/21 years old/24 years old?

[hhyftrftdr]

Guy is a complete idiot and thick as pig shit, but 6 years doesn't sit quite right. As already mentioned, you see much more severe crimes slapped with lesser sentences.

''As it is he has abused a position of trust, so he should be treated in a similar way to a teacher''.....don't agree with that Dooobs. Why was he in a position of trust?

It was what the judge said in the sentencing

Adam Johnson's crimes were the most serious of their type, the judge says.

Judge Jonathan Rose says his offences were category 1A, the most serious.

He says "there is an abuse of trust, you are trusted by young fans to behave properly". 

Well I think the judge is talking bollocks in that case then. You cannot seriously lump footballers in with teachers etc, otherwise where do you draw the line? Surely nearly every occupation has the potential to be an ''abuse of trust''?

well yes, every adult has to respect the boundaries of laws and deceny surely? thats what being an adult is about if you are considering activity with a 15 year old, which he did. he then abused his position as an adult.

footballer = public occupation, high profile, clubs wheel them out into community, schools etc. while its not quite teacher/pupil, doctor/patient there is an abuse of trust

That's not what I was getting at, and i'm pretty sure you know it. A teacher shagging a pupil is an abuse/breach of trust, ditto a doctor having it away with a patient. A footballer having sexual contact with a 15 year old is not an abuse of trust in relation to his occupation.

[PokerBroker]

He is obviously a naughty boy, probably deserves punishment but 6 years is excessive in my view.  

Although he should have come clean straight away instead of dragging it through the courts and he probably gets a slap on the wrist.  

If I were his lawyer, I'd be appealing and hopefully get a judge who had done far worse.

[TightEnd]

Guy is a complete idiot and thick as pig shit, but 6 years doesn't sit quite right. As already mentioned, you see much more severe crimes slapped with lesser sentences.

''As it is he has abused a position of trust, so he should be treated in a similar way to a teacher''.....don't agree with that Dooobs. Why was he in a position of trust?

It was what the judge said in the sentencing

Adam Johnson's crimes were the most serious of their type, the judge says.

Judge Jonathan Rose says his offences were category 1A, the most serious.

He says "there is an abuse of trust, you are trusted by young fans to behave properly". 

Well I think the judge is talking bollocks in that case then. You cannot seriously lump footballers in with teachers etc, otherwise where do you draw the line? Surely nearly every occupation has the potential to be an ''abuse of trust''?

well yes, every adult has to respect the boundaries of laws and deceny surely? thats what being an adult is about if you are considering activity with a 15 year old, which he did. he then abused his position as an adult.

footballer = public occupation, high profile, clubs wheel them out into community, schools etc. while its not quite teacher/pupil, doctor/patient there is an abuse of trust

That's not what I was getting at, and i'm pretty sure you know it. A teacher shagging a pupil is an abuse/breach of trust, ditto a doctor having it away with a patient. A footballer having sexual contact with a 15 year old is not an abuse of trust in relation to his occupation.

i think it is, and so did the judge. like it or not its a role model type occupation where the club uses its employees to sell tickets/merchandise etc to minors via their parents, involves them in community activities like school visits etc

[hhyftrftdr]

Guy is a complete idiot and thick as pig shit, but 6 years doesn't sit quite right. As already mentioned, you see much more severe crimes slapped with lesser sentences.

''As it is he has abused a position of trust, so he should be treated in a similar way to a teacher''.....don't agree with that Dooobs. Why was he in a position of trust?

It was what the judge said in the sentencing

Adam Johnson's crimes were the most serious of their type, the judge says.

Judge Jonathan Rose says his offences were category 1A, the most serious.

He says "there is an abuse of trust, you are trusted by young fans to behave properly". 

Well I think the judge is talking bollocks in that case then. You cannot seriously lump footballers in with teachers etc, otherwise where do you draw the line? Surely nearly every occupation has the potential to be an ''abuse of trust''?

well yes, every adult has to respect the boundaries of laws and deceny surely? thats what being an adult is about if you are considering activity with a 15 year old, which he did. he then abused his position as an adult.

footballer = public occupation, high profile, clubs wheel them out into community, schools etc. while its not quite teacher/pupil, doctor/patient there is an abuse of trust

That's not what I was getting at, and i'm pretty sure you know it. A teacher shagging a pupil is an abuse/breach of trust, ditto a doctor having it away with a patient. A footballer having sexual contact with a 15 year old is not an abuse of trust in relation to his occupation.

i think it is, and so did the judge. like it or not its a role model type occupation where the club uses its employees to sell tickets/merchandise etc to minors via their parents, involves them in community activities like school visits etc

Which means that you're putting footballers on a level occupational pegging with teachers when stuff like this happens. Which is absurd.