Fantasy Premier League 2016/17

[Karabiner]

Not sure why you would limit to only 1 classic cash league but be allowed in the 2 luckbox leagues?

I would play 2 classics but neither LMS or H2H but I'll only end up in 1 league now whilst others will be in 3.

I'm with Stevie here, not quite sure of the reasoning.

[TheDazzler]

Not sure why you would limit to only 1 classic cash league but be allowed in the 2 luckbox leagues?

I would play 2 classics but neither LMS or H2H but I'll only end up in 1 league now whilst others will be in 3.

I'm with Stevie here, not quite sure of the reasoning.

It's to ensure a spread of winners.
If you can enter all the leagues, 1 player can dominate nearly all the prize money across all leagues, which happened 2 years ago when I won most of the money.
This way, the disadvantage is you'll end up with smaller prize pools (as player pools are restricted) but you'll achieve a greater spread of prizes and winners.
It should keep more people interested for longer. Similarly with the cups later in the season. Trying to keep the game fun for as many people for as long as possible.
It's wealth equality. You're not in favour of wealth inequality, are you Ralph?

[Junior Senior]

As Dazzler said. If we let everyone enter all leagues then the same people win. Pick your level and try to win it.
Hopefully it keeps it interesting all season.
Side bets are not forbidden btw.

I could set up more leagues, maybe a £20, a £50 and a £200? And let people enter 2 but then it dilutes the league numbers and the admin is increased. It takes a lot of admin as it is.

[Karabiner]

Not sure why you would limit to only 1 classic cash league but be allowed in the 2 luckbox leagues?

I would play 2 classics but neither LMS or H2H but I'll only end up in 1 league now whilst others will be in 3.

I'm with Stevie here, not quite sure of the reasoning.

It's to ensure a spread of winners.
If you can enter all the leagues, 1 player can dominate nearly all the prize money across all leagues, which happened 2 years ago when I won most of the money.
This way, the disadvantage is you'll end up with smaller prize pools (as player pools are restricted) but you'll achieve a greater spread of prizes and winners.
It should keep more people interested for longer. Similarly with the cups later in the season. Trying to keep the game fun for as many people for as long as possible.
It's wealth equality. You're not in favour of wealth inequality, are you Ralph?

Okay I understand the logic now.

As for supporting wealth inequality I feel compelled to mention my work on a kibbutz for many months for no pay in my youth.

[RobM]

Thanks for running again both. You guys deserve medals!

In for the £100, H2H, LMS & Free league.

Only query with only being in 1 classic league is it means less cup comps - enjoyed being in those for the additional sweats last year despite falling short in them all. Not sure if there's any way around this? We didn't actually have a cup in the £100 league either. Possible to run extra cups for each league? More admin :/

Guess it all dilutes the prize pool for the classics too so will leave it up to you guys but personally my vote would be to keep with last year's formula where anyone can enter the £100 as a standalone effective nonblonde league & for the blonde members only - max 2 classic league entries allowed. Loads of unique winners last year and personally didn't see anyone complaining that Gazza was dominating them all? Anyway - your call of course.

As mentioned last year, as one of the managers with decent returns, happy to also lump some back in for this year's added pot. Put me down for an extra £100 spread however you deem fit.

Finally, As also mentioned In last year's thread, please take this as comfirmation I will also fund a £50 spot prize at the end of the season for the highest single 'Gameweek Rank' (GR) of any team in any of the leagues (inc free/brags league) for an additional side game for us all where the lead could potentially change hands every week.

Now to pick a squad...

[Teacake]

Good post Rob.

The lads do a great job running these and I also think that they got the balance just right last year, there were multiple winners even with the crossover of winners in the classic leagues.
The classic leagues themselves are the easiest to run in terms of admin as they run themselves,its the cups that take the most maintenance but these are good fun.

Personally I'm not a fan of the H2H league as I find it a distraction from the classic leagues but that's just personal preference I understand that others enjoy them and they can give you an interest even if your team isn't doing well overall but I think we have that covered off with the cups.

Just my tuppence worth

[TheDazzler]

Thanks for running again both. You guys deserve medals!

In for the £100, H2H, LMS & Free league.

Only query with only being in 1 classic league is it means less cup comps - enjoyed being in those for the additional sweats last year despite falling short in them all. Not sure if there's any way around this? We didn't actually have a cup in the £100 league either. Possible to run extra cups for each league? More admin :/

Guess it all dilutes the prize pool for the classics too so will leave it up to you guys but personally my vote would be to keep with last year's formula where anyone can enter the £100 as a standalone effective nonblonde league & for the blonde members only - max 2 classic league entries allowed. Loads of unique winners last year and personally didn't see anyone complaining that Gazza was dominating them all? Anyway - your call of course.

As mentioned last year, as one of the managers with decent returns, happy to also lump some back in for this year's added pot. Put me down for an extra £100 spread however you deem fit.

Finally, As also mentioned In last year's thread, please take this as comfirmation I will also fund a £50 spot prize at the end of the season for the highest single 'Gameweek Rank' (GR) of any team in any of the leagues (inc free/brags league) for an additional side game for us all where the lead could potentially change hands every week.

Now to pick a squad...

So you're putting in £150 extra? Very generous sir!
As regards the highest GW rank prize, you mean the highest RANKING in a GW as opposed to the highest individual SCORE in a GW (as these are likely to be two different winners)?

The committee are in discussions and we should have details coming soon on the final makeup

[TheDazzler]

Okay I understand the logic now.

As for supporting wealth inequality I feel compelled to mention my work on a kibbutz for many months for no pay in my youth.

I always wanted to go on one of these when I was younger, I think I'm too old now. My ex did one, she said it was great fun.
Good, was it? Like a hippie commune?

[TheDazzler]

Regarding cups, I was thinking we could create a 'cups package', separate to the leagues so they won't dilute those prizepools. This would be open to all, as some people like the cups but some may not..
Say the entry is £30. You get entered into an FA Cup, a League Cup and a Champions League. They will run on the same basis as they did last year.

I was also thinking of a 'Tandem League'. Again, say £20 and open to all.
Say 40 people enter, everyone gets drawn out in an open draw to play with one other person as their tandem. Their combined score is their total score and at the end of the season, the highest combined score wins the league, 2nd highest is 2nd, etc, etc.
You could have people choosing their own tandem but then the best players will play with the best players and it won't be very competitive. This way, stronger players may advise the weaker players and it hopefully raises all boats.

Thoughts?
Maybe this is too much, we could have about 10 different comps at this rate!

[George2Loose]

keep tandem league anonymous until end of season so there's a reveal

[Karabiner]

Okay I understand the logic now.

As for supporting wealth inequality I feel compelled to mention my work on a kibbutz for many months for no pay in my youth.

I always wanted to go on one of these when I was younger, I think I'm too old now. My ex did one, she said it was great fun.
Good, was it? Like a hippie commune?

Somewhat more organized than a hippie commune and without the dope which is strictly taboo, but totally self-supporting. Originally all were farms but some modern ones now have factories or guest-houses etc. to supplement the agriculture which usually include cash-crops of expensive fruit such as mangoes or avocados. These often have armed guards around the clock near harvest-time.

Most if not all kibbutzim have a number of "volunteers" usually aged between 18/30 from all over; Aussies, Scandies, Brits, Irish, Dutch, you name it, who live and work there temporarily usually just for a few months for room, board, and a bit of spending money. There are usually 20/50 volunteers on one kibbutz who are normally situated there own little area 2 per room and working 4/6 hours gentle work per day and lots of craic in the evenings especially when the balance is right.

On the downside work can begin at 4/5am but you soon get used to that as the working day is over by noon.

Happy days which I know you would have loved.

[RobM]

Thanks for running again both. You guys deserve medals!

In for the £100, H2H, LMS & Free league.

Only query with only being in 1 classic league is it means less cup comps - enjoyed being in those for the additional sweats last year despite falling short in them all. Not sure if there's any way around this? We didn't actually have a cup in the £100 league either. Possible to run extra cups for each league? More admin :/

Guess it all dilutes the prize pool for the classics too so will leave it up to you guys but personally my vote would be to keep with last year's formula where anyone can enter the £100 as a standalone effective nonblonde league & for the blonde members only - max 2 classic league entries allowed. Loads of unique winners last year and personally didn't see anyone complaining that Gazza was dominating them all? Anyway - your call of course.

As mentioned last year, as one of the managers with decent returns, happy to also lump some back in for this year's added pot. Put me down for an extra £100 spread however you deem fit.

Finally, As also mentioned In last year's thread, please take this as comfirmation I will also fund a £50 spot prize at the end of the season for the highest single 'Gameweek Rank' (GR) of any team in any of the leagues (inc free/brags league) for an additional side game for us all where the lead could potentially change hands every week.

Now to pick a squad...

So you're putting in £150 extra? Very generous sir!
As regards the highest GW rank prize, you mean the highest RANKING in a GW as opposed to the highest individual SCORE in a GW (as these are likely to be two different winners)?

The committee are in discussions and we should have details coming soon on the final makeup

You're welcome.. I'll send the funds to Greg with my entry fees but happy to administer the spot prize bit. Should only take 30 mins to check all the teams at the end and I'll also try to keep tabs each week too and post here when the lead changes as think it'll be good to let someone know the buck is with them at that point in time etc.

Yes Ranking not score. Score would be dominated by the double gameweeks whereas highest GR could feasibly be won in any of the gameweeks right down to gw38 so think it'll be more fun to watch the lead change as the season progresses. Also believe it to be in the same regard in terms of prestige as highest gw score as although that is a feat, It basically comes down to your planning for double game weeks and a touch more luck imo. Happy to make it £40/£10 or £35/£15 actually for 1st and 2nd gw rank as also promotes spreading the winnings. Will let you guys decide that mix of the £50 when final details released.

R.e tandem and separate cups entry - in for those too if they go ahead and the rules permit.

[superwomble]

Free league IN

Cheers all

[PathFinder]

keep tandem league anonymous until end of season so there's a reveal

+1 to this

[Mark_Porter]

£30 classic, HTH and LMS for me please.

Interested in tandem, cups etc.

Thanks in advance for the admin that goes into running this and the people that juice the pot.